Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (52 Viewers)

Sky Blue Pete

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Based on that I think 5000 infections a day and 50 deaths is the level that will be deemed ok
 

Ccfcisparks

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Evo1883

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Thought about that myself but its hard to work out at the moment I think. What we're looking for is what the numbers should be once the vaccination program is done and things are back to 'normal'. Then how does that compare to other thinks like flu and other transmissible diseases.

Wonder what the age breakdown is for flu hospitalisations and deaths in a year.

I'd imagine similar , mostly elderly .
 

fernandopartridge

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“Imagine if Labour has been in charge of the vaccine rollout

Wales despite being much smaller has allowed its health boards to make their own decisions on the roll out. The post 2010 governments have centralised decision making to such a great extent that it's just utterly inflexible, all by Tory design to cut jobs.
 

chiefdave

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Not a great showing from Hancock today. You'd have thought after everything aimed at him yesterday he'd be very keen to clear his name but apart from a vague 'its not true' don't think he actually denied anything specific.
 
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CCFCSteve

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Not a great showing from Hancock today. You'd have thought after everything aimed at him yesterday he'd be very keen to clear his name but apart from a vague 'its not true' don't think he actually denied anything specific.

Yeah, wasn’t surprised, let’s be honest, he’s weak and he probably did lie. It will be interesting when he is interviewed by the select committee in a couple of weeks. Key questions, as many have said all along, relate to inadequate PPE supplies and releasing elderly back into care homes (without testing). They are probably the main lessons to be learned from this so we need to know what went wrong and who was to blame (to make sure stuff like that doesn’t ever happen again).
 

chiefdave

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Yeah, wasn’t surprised, let’s be honest, he’s weak and he probably did lie. It will be interesting when he is interviewed by the select committee in a couple of weeks. Key questions, as many have said all along, relate to inadequate PPE supplies and releasing elderly back into care homes (without testing). They are probably the main lessons to be learned from this so we need to know what went wrong and who was to blame (to make sure stuff like that doesn’t ever happen again).
Not sure there is any valid excuse they can give for things like PPE. They had exercise cygnus, well eventually it was postponed for two years as they were too busy with Brexit, to test the pandemic preparedness plan and lack of PPE and ventilators were among the many things flagged up.

As seems to be the norm these days none of the recommendations were implemented.

Sending infected people into care homes filled with the most vulnerable is just inexcusable.
 

PVA

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Yeah, wasn’t surprised, let’s be honest, he’s weak and he probably did lie. It will be interesting when he is interviewed by the select committee in a couple of weeks. Key questions, as many have said all along, relate to inadequate PPE supplies and releasing elderly back into care homes (without testing). They are probably the main lessons to be learned from this so we need to know what went wrong and who was to blame (to make sure stuff like that doesn’t ever happen again).

They still haven't learned any lessons though, as we've seen with the spread of the Indian variant. They just don't give a shit.
 

Johnnythespider

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Not sure there is any valid excuse they can give for things like PPE. They had exercise cygnus, well eventually it was postponed for two years as they were too busy with Brexit, to test the pandemic preparedness plan and lack of PPE and ventilators were among the many things flagged up.

As seems to be the norm these days none of the recommendations were implemented.

Sending infected people into care homes filled with the most vulnerable is just inexcusable.
You'd like to think it's inexcusable but I'm not sure this country's hit the bottom yet.
 

fernandopartridge

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Yeah, wasn’t surprised, let’s be honest, he’s weak and he probably did lie. It will be interesting when he is interviewed by the select committee in a couple of weeks. Key questions, as many have said all along, relate to inadequate PPE supplies and releasing elderly back into care homes (without testing). They are probably the main lessons to be learned from this so we need to know what went wrong and who was to blame (to make sure stuff like that doesn’t ever happen again).

The other big lesson is that it probably isn't a good idea to eviscerate many public services through dogmatic austerity but nobody wants to learn that
 

wingy

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Yeah, wasn’t surprised, let’s be honest, he’s weak and he probably did lie. It will be interesting when he is interviewed by the select committee in a couple of weeks. Key questions, as many have said all along, relate to inadequate PPE supplies and releasing elderly back into care homes (without testing). They are probably the main lessons to be learned from this so we need to know what went wrong and who was to blame (to make sure stuff like that doesn’t ever happen again).
He really did Steve about five times in the first couple of months.
I didn't make a list but I hope people like Marr did as he and others were usually sitting opposite him.
 

clint van damme

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He really did Steve about five times in the first couple of months.
I didn't make a list but I hope people like Marr did as he and others were usually sitting opposite him.

It's hard to make a list when you've got your tongue up someones arse
 

Bugsy

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jordan210

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I somehow have access to the booking page for vaccines so can search areas.

Around me in Hampshire is booked solid for 2-3 weeks. With only a few appointments 30 odd miles away coming up.

Around Heathrow for example you can book for same day. You would think if places have spare capacity they would send staff and vaccines to popular areas.
 

SBT

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Heathrow is in Hounslow, which is one of the hotspots for the Indian variant, so I think that’s where they’re sending the extra capacity.
 

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