Evo1883
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Nice math
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Nice math
chiefdave
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All the test events have required a negative test for entry and some level of mask wearing & distancing, although as we've seen from televised games there's a decent percentage of people who seem incapable of wearing a mask properly if at all.
In the next round of testing some events drop the mask wearing & distancing but the data from those won't be known until after 21 June. For example Download is a test event and takes place 18 - 20 June with a post event test required in the week following the event. How can they use that data to decide if its safe to remove restrictions on 21 June?
That would lead me to believe that testing and / or vaccine passports are in the plans for when restrictions are removed otherwise the test event data is useless but the Telegraph (Daily not CET) report today that plans for that have been scrapped.
Seen a couple of interesting ticketing systems introduced in the US. One is that the better seats at the front are reserved for those who are prepared to confirm they are vaccinated with an area at the rear of the venue for those who haven't been vaccinated or won't confirm their status which maintains mask wearing & distancing. Another was where tickets are the usual $20 price if you provide proof of vaccination, if you couldn't or wouldn't they are £1,000!
Sick Boy
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To be honest the articles I read are clear as mud so I'm not sure!
I think it's saying 113 of 3500 died. But as I say it's really not clear.
Will try and the actual report as that should be clearer!
Evo1883
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chiefdave
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Grendel
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it’s 0.2% of the total vaccinated
Figures on Covid deaths post-jab show vaccine’s success, scientists say
Small number have died after being vaccinated, mostly having caught virus before dose could take effect
Grendel
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That means 1% of those vaccinated were hospitalised
Nick’s disguises are getting better
They all just have to adopt the passport ,or tests for those who are not jabbed.
I guess it depends what hybrid variants are knocking about then SB .
Grendel
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It’s actually when you read it neither what it’s trying to say is of the sample hospitalised 0.2% died which is significantly lower than the norm in that sample of 52,000 so the deduction is the vaccine reduced deaths by 80% over the normal rate
chiefdave
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Think this is the report being referred to:
Grendel
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Brighton Sky Blue
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I see it as meaning that out of 52,000 hospital patients, only 500 of those had received at least one dose. Of the vaccinated who went to hospital, 100 died. It shows to me brilliant protection against serious illness.
Brighton Sky Blue
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The Israeli data for that was very good to be fair
baldy
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'Too fast' ffs....coming up to 18 months of this shit now & hardly anybody's dying - about time we lived with it - it's ridiculous
Evo1883
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Ah right , the one I've had , brilliant lol
Brighton Sky Blue
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They’re all designed for two
Sure it'll be sound once the second goes in ,I was just surprised he didn't contrast it against the others yet I think it's similar tbf.
MusicDating
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My frustration with reporting such as this (and particularly the BBC making it their headline too) is although the scientist is a member of Sage, every article I've read containing their view is very pro lockdown. Which is fine, that's their view.
SAGE expert calls for June 21 to be delayed 'by a few weeks'
Environment Secretary George Eustice today warned the Government 'couldn't rule anything out' when asked whether June 21 'freedom day' could be delayed due to rising Covid infections.www.dailymail.co.uk
However, for the purposes of balance, where are the quotes from other scientists? Or figures showing small deaths from the vaccinated?
It's a bit like if the BBC only ever reported the Doves view of the BoE monetary policy and ignoring the Hawks.
FWIW, I don't see how a '3rd wave' can happen due to the number of vaccinations and those that have already had Covid. Small clusters yes due to societal make up of certain areas but enough circuit breakers now to stop a mass spread. Could of course be bollocks as I haven't read that anywhere, but would be nice to have the chance to!
Nick
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Third wave starting to trend on twitter .
This is how mass panic begins , these fuckers know what they are doing
Oh of course they will. It's so easy.
Scaremongering, again.
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No one is dying let’s get the colly open and get fans back at games.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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'Just a few more weeks.'
Well you only have to look on this forum to see how easy it is.
Third wave starting to trend on twitter .
This is how mass panic begins , these fuckers know what they are doing
Well you only have to look on this forum to see how easy it is.
Sky Blue Pete
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No panic just cautious optimism that we can be sensible and chart a course balancing what we need to
samccov1987
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Think it’s looking more and more likely that restrictions won’t all be lifted on the 21st. Whilst I don’t think we’re going to end up tightening the ones already released I think it’s prudent to just hold fire another month and see where we are.
Vaccines are only 33% effective after one dose. We really need all adults to have been offered both doses to confidently say were out of the woods.
The opening of travel restrictions looks more and more irresponsible.
How many times do we need to make the same mistake?
Vaccines are only 33% effective after one dose. We really need all adults to have been offered both doses to confidently say were out of the woods.
The opening of travel restrictions looks more and more irresponsible.
How many times do we need to make the same mistake?