Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (161 Viewers)

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

No panic just cautious optimism that we can be sensible and chart a course balancing what we need to

Who is going to die from it though, or be seriously ill? They've been vaccinated.

It is always 'just a few more weeks'. I haven't even said we should lift the final restrictions before June 21st, which is what some others have suggested, but to extend beyond that when such high numbers of people that are affected by the virus having been vaccinated makes no sense.

 

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[Evo1883]

Be just a few more weeks in 2023 still , everybody depressed to fuck and waiting on their 5th booster jab

 

[Grendel]

I see it as meaning that out of 52,000 hospital patients, only 500 of those had received at least one dose. Of the vaccinated who went to hospital, 100 died. It

Think it’s looking more and more likely that restrictions won’t all be lifted on the 21st. Whilst I don’t think we’re going to end up tightening the ones already released I think it’s prudent to just hold fire another month and see where we are.

Vaccines are only 33% effective after one dose. We really need all adults to have been offered both doses to confidently say were out of the woods.

The opening of travel restrictions looks more and more irresponsible.

How many times do we need to make the same mistake?

33% effective? Really?

 

[Evo1883]

33% effective? Really?

The pfizer jab

 

[CCFCSteve]

33% effective? Really?

I think Sams correct if he’s talking about Indian variant. A recent study was saying jabs were around 33% effective against Indian variant after one dose (which appears to be becoming most dominant variant here and probably will be elsewhere). However, this was as in stopping people getting it after one dose, not sure what the effectiveness is against severe illness/death, hopefully a lot higher

 

[samccov1987]

I think Sams correct if he’s talking about Indian variant. A recent study was saying jabs were around 33% effective against Indian variant after one dose (which appears to be becoming most dominant variant here and probably will be elsewhere). However, this was as in stopping people getting it after one dose, not sure what the effectiveness is against severe illness/death, hopefully a lot higher

Yes it was the Indian variant which is now becoming dominant I was referring too.

Good news is that two doses work albeit the AZ vaccine given to older ages groups not so high although comparable to flu vaccine efficacy.

How effective is one vaccine dose against Indian variant?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Who is going to die from it though, or be seriously ill? They've been vaccinated.

It is always 'just a few more weeks'. I haven't even said we should lift the final restrictions before June 21st, which is what some others have suggested, but to extend beyond that when such high numbers of people that are affected by the virus having been vaccinated makes no sense.

Watch the hospital programme and the consultants will tell you people are dying of the secondary effects of treating Covid patients. 5m waiting lists it’s not just death to Covid as it’s not just economy to consider and mental health is often much better if your family and friends are not waiting for treatment or missing cancer and heart operations through lack of itu beds. Cautious optimism

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Think it’s looking more and more likely that restrictions won’t all be lifted on the 21st. Whilst I don’t think we’re going to end up tightening the ones already released I think it’s prudent to just hold fire another month and see where we are.

Vaccines are only 33% effective after one dose. We really need all adults to have been offered both doses to confidently say were out of the woods.

The opening of travel restrictions looks more and more irresponsible.

How many times do we need to make the same mistake?

I take it you have nothing important planned in July then.

 

[samccov1987]

I take it you have nothing important planned in July then.

Just work I dont get school holidays unfortunately.

Whole country has had their lives on hold for too long but let’s get this over and done with once and for all. A small delay on the last restrictions left isn’t as bad as having to reintroduce them because we couldn’t wait.

 

[Evo1883]

Still holding off on booking abroad , I still don't have the confidence to book even for 2022

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Still holding off on booking abroad , I still don't have the confidence to book even for 2022

Daughter just booked Egypt september 22

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Watch the hospital programme and the consultants will tell you people are dying of the secondary effects of treating Covid patients. 5m waiting lists it’s not just death to Covid as it’s not just economy to consider and mental health is often much better if your family and friends are not waiting for treatment or missing cancer and heart operations through lack of itu beds. Cautious optimism

One person in the whole of the UK died with Covid today. None in England.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

One person in the whole of the UK died with Covid today. None in England.

That’s great it really is

 

[Evo1883]

One person in the whole of the UK died with Covid today. None in England.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Just work I dont get school holidays unfortunately.

Whole country has had their lives on hold for too long but let’s get this over and done with once and for all. A small delay on the last restrictions left isn’t as bad as having to reintroduce them because we couldn’t wait.

I was planning to get married to be fair

 

[baldy]

The whole situation is pathetic - we’ve done all they’ve asked of us,we can’t do much more & yet being free of restrictions still hangs in the balance...don’t thick bastards realize you can’t beat a pandemic? It’s impossible
The best option really is to just live with it I’m afraid

 

[Sick Boy]

In a week’s time just about all restrictions are going to be lifted here.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

I'm sure how not extending the current restrictions is going to improve things or make much difference. Aren't we pretty much in a free for all now anyway?

 

[wingy]

I see it as meaning that out of 52,000 hospital patients, only 500 of those had received at least one dose. Of the vaccinated who went to hospital, 100 died. It shows to me brilliant protection against serious illness.

I'm having a little trouble with this.

The initial data I think broke down as 1% mortality,which is probably deflated by asymptomatic case's.
90% of those were old and frail .
You seem to suggest 20% died after vaccination , more precise information on exactly how many had one or two doses would be better.

They were all hospitalised ?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I’ll have had two in 2 days. I feel pretty safe but actually have always done so

I think you should have left a bigger gap between the jabs.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I haven’t been to the supermarket since November for fear that someone on here will collar me for not being 2m apart at all times.

How would they collar you without breaking the 2m rule themselves? Or are there people hanging around outside supermarkets with really long sticks to beat people with?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I'm having a little trouble with this.

The initial data I think broke down as 1% mortality,which is probably deflated by asymptomatic case's.
90% of those were old and frail .
You seem to suggest 20% died after vaccination , more precise information on exactly how many had one or two doses would be better.

They were all hospitalised ?

Think of it this way. It would suggest that 500 out of 50,000, around 1%, of hospitalised people had been jabbed, the rest were not.

Out of those 500, 100 died. So it amounts to 0.2% of deaths overall. Add in that some of these will just be single jabs or infected just after vaccination as well and I do not see the rationale behind staying closed particularly as more will be meeting outside

 

[wingy]

Think of it this way. It would suggest that 500 out of 50,000, around 1%, of hospitalised people had been jabbed, the rest were not.

Out of those 500, 100 died. So it amounts to 0.2% of deaths overall. Add in that some of these will just be single jabs or infected just after vaccination as well and I do not see the rationale behind staying closed particularly as more will be meeting outside

Yeah I do understand that but it paints all the death's occurred among the vaccinated at 20% and none from the other 50k

The presentation and use of percentages as usual masks the real info, apparently inflating or deflating as per desire

I mean I may be being blond here but the use of English in the article doesn't really help either, almost structured similarly to the French language.

 

[chiefdave]

You seem to suggest 20% died after vaccination , more precise information on exactly how many had one or two doses would be better.

Hopefully this shows up as a clickable thumbnail.

 

[hill83]

Free for all. Scrum.

They’re trying it. Fuck the daily mail

 

[hill83]

Not, “the young are ready for the vaccine and look at them go”

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Not, “the young are ready for the vaccine and look at them go”

The young were being blamed by the Daily Fail 6 months ago for causing the spike. Now they are doing something that should be seen as preventing a spike and they are still criticised. They can’t win.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Fuck it. Went on a rant, deleted it. Not worth it

most people are sound the minority are pricks. Don't let them do your nut in. I keep telling myself that too.

 

[SBT]

Last hours of the Bank Holiday Monday getting seriously sloppy on here, that was some all-time thermonuclear internet warfare being waged, just gutted it got deleted before we could get the reaction.

 

[wingy]

Free for all. Scrum.

They’re trying it. Fuck the daily mail

Just for context here hill, I think it's just typical of journalism .
It was Twickenham after all.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I saw it getting re-tweeted en masse that Twickenham had leftover vaccines and 'everyone over 18 could come and get one'.

Was always going to end up in tears.

 

[wingy]

Not, “the young are ready for the vaccine and look at them go”

All hoody wearers,buggers.

 

[hill83]

Last hours of the Bank Holiday Monday getting seriously sloppy on here, that was some all-time thermonuclear internet warfare being waged, just gutted it got deleted before we could get the reaction.

Stand by every deleted word

 

[shmmeee]

The whole situation is pathetic - we’ve done all they’ve asked of us,we can’t do much more & yet being free of restrictions still hangs in the balance...don’t thick bastards realize you can’t beat a pandemic? It’s impossible
The best option really is to just live with it I’m afraid

We pretty much have beaten a pandemic. Just need to get everyone vaccinated.

 

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