The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (20 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Pete]

Could apply to a lot of things funnily enough. People love to blame anything - governments, generations, circumstances other than the fact most of the time they just aren’t very good

Yep and I’m not pointing at anyone more than me other than blaming foreigners

 

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[skybluetony176]

Could apply to a lot of things funnily enough. People love to blame anything - governments, generations, circumstances other than the fact most of the time they just aren’t very good

The EU

 

[shmmeee]

Could apply to a lot of things funnily enough. People love to blame anything - governments, generations, circumstances other than the fact most of the time they just aren’t very good

Good enough at what?

 

[Evo1883]

Good enough at what?

My missus will tell you I'm not quite good enough at the sex I disagree I'm excellent at satisfying my needs

 

[clint van damme]

My missus will tell you I'm not quite good enough at the sex I disagree I'm excellent at satisfying my needs

Quick as well apparently!

 

[Evo1883]

Quick as well apparently!

She told me you were quicker

 

[clint van damme]

She told me you were quicker

You misheard her, the word she used was incapable!

 

[wingy]

Poor tradesmen often blame their tools.

 

[shmmeee]

Poor tradesmen often blame their tools.

You saying Evo’s missus is a poor tradesman?

 

[skybluetony176]

What’s the betting that the back stop makes a return and Boris hails it as a victory against the Ireland protocol and a Brexit victory.

 

[Evo1883]

You saying Evo’s missus is a poor tradesman?

She is

 

[Skybluefaz]

What’s the betting that the back stop makes a return and Boris hails it as a victory against the Ireland protocol and a Brexit victory.

Probably nailed on. No one cares though.

 

[skybluetony176]

Probably nailed on. No one cares though.

They’ll care enough to play along and hail it as a Brexit victory.

 

[Skybluefaz]

They’ll care enough to play along and hail it as a Brexit victory.

Yeah, probably right.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

This government all up but it will still go up in the polls .

You can’t have you cake and eat it and then have another and eat that. Pisses me off

G7: PM pledges to protect UK integrity amid EU row

Boris Johnson calls for "pragmatic solutions" to the need for checks on goods going to Northern Ireland.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Fuckin lunatic

 

[Sick Boy]

This government all up but it will still go up in the polls .

You can’t have you cake and eat it and then have another and eat that. Pisses me off

G7: PM pledges to protect UK integrity amid EU row

Boris Johnson calls for "pragmatic solutions" to the need for checks on goods going to Northern Ireland.

www.bbc.co.uk

It’s almost like they didn’t know what they were signing up for, surely not?!

 

[clint van damme]

It’s almost like they didn’t know what they were signing up for, surely not?!

No one more pissed off than David Frost with the deal negotiated by, err, David Frost!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

No one more pissed off than David Frost with the deal negotiated by, err, David Frost!

They brothers

 

[clint van damme]

I appreciate the Guardian is a big cheer leader for the EU but if the quotes in this article from various ex diplomats are true its pretty damning of Johnson and worrying about how we move forward as a country

‘Mistrusted’ Johnson feels full force of EU fury as Brexit wrecks G7 summit

European leaders made their feelings about the Northern Ireland protocol known to a PM desperate to score a PR victory

www.theguardian.com

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I appreciate the Guardian is a big cheer leader for the EU but if the quotes in this article from various ex diplomats are true its pretty damning of Johnson and worrying about how we move forward as a country

‘Mistrusted’ Johnson feels full force of EU fury as Brexit wrecks G7 summit

European leaders made their feelings about the Northern Ireland protocol known to a PM desperate to score a PR victory

www.theguardian.com

Need to hear the Mail and the sun take. Mail will be something pithy like EU threaten progress on world Covid vaccinations

 

[skybluetony176]

Didn’t even mention Brexit. This just goes to show that anyone who matters doesn’t care about Brexit past the GFA. We’re on our own to find solutions to a problem of our own making. So much for holding all the cards, the only thing we’re holding is our own dicks.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

G7 summit: Northern Ireland part of one great indivisible UK, says PM

The comments come after the French president allegedly said Northern Ireland was not part of the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk

How wars start. Raab and johnson don’t realise they are dealing with dynamite

G7 summit: Northern Ireland part of one great indivisible UK, says PM

The comments come after the French president allegedly said Northern Ireland was not part of the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[skybluetony176]

G7 summit: Northern Ireland part of one great indivisible UK, says PM

The comments come after the French president allegedly said Northern Ireland was not part of the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk

How wars start. Raab and johnson don’t realise they are dealing with dynamite

G7 summit: Northern Ireland part of one great indivisible UK, says PM

The comments come after the French president allegedly said Northern Ireland was not part of the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk

Says a government representative of a government who’s repeatedly lied to Northern Ireland. As far as I know Macron has never lied to Northern Ireland.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

No one more pissed off than David Frost with the deal negotiated by, err, David Frost!

There’s something to be said about the implementation of the NIP though.

The EU conducts 20% of its customs controls in Northern Ireland which is evidently not proportionate. Things like Sainsbury’s own brand goods being checked when there’s no Sainsbury’s in ROI.

The NIP has claimed Arlene Foster’s political career who has been replaced by someone who is a hardliner and this could carry on to claim more political careers and jeopardise the GFA agreement.

For balance, the NIP negotiated by the government was a terrible and always going to caused issues. But, its implementation by the EU has been zealous and is stirring the unionist community. Frankly, it needs to be looked at again and both sides come to some sort of arrangement rather than both trying to score PR wins.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Says a government representative of a government who’s repeatedly lied to Northern Ireland. As far as I know Macron has never lied to Northern Ireland.

It is you must admit a bit embarrassing for someone in his position not to know the difference between the UK and GB

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

There’s something to be said about the implementation of the NIP though.

The EU conducts 20% of its customs controls in Northern Ireland which is evidently not proportionate. Things like Sainsbury’s own brand goods being checked when there’s no Sainsbury’s in ROI.

The NIP has claimed Arlene Foster’s political career who has been replaced by someone who is a hardliner and this could carry on to claim more political careers and jeopardise the GFA agreement.

For balance, the NIP negotiated by the government was a terrible and always going to caused issues. But, its implementation by the EU has been zealous and is stirring the unionist community. Frankly, it needs to be looked at again and both sides come to some sort of arrangement rather than both trying to score PR wins.

It was just unnecessary

 

[skybluetony176]

There’s something to be said about the implementation of the NIP though.

The EU conducts 20% of its customs controls in Northern Ireland which is evidently not proportionate. Things like Sainsbury’s own brand goods being checked when there’s no Sainsbury’s in ROI.

The NIP has claimed Arlene Foster’s political career who has been replaced by someone who is a hardliner and this could carry on to claim more political careers and jeopardise the GFA agreement.

For balance, the NIP negotiated by the government was a terrible and always going to caused issues. But, its implementation by the EU has been zealous and is stirring the unionist community. Frankly, it needs to be looked at again and both sides come to some sort of arrangement rather than both trying to score PR wins.

If you go to a Sainsbury’s or Tesco’s at a border town the car park will be full of cars from the South as a lot of food stuff is cheaper in the North than the South. You can’t have a border on the island of Ireland so the only way to control goods and standards of goods traveling to the south is the NIP. Was never going to be any different without breaking the GFA. Simple as.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

If you go to a Sainsbury’s or Tesco’s at a border town the car park will be full of cars from the South as a lot of food stuff is cheaper in the North than the South. You can’t have a border on the island of Ireland so the only way to control goods and standards of goods traveling to the south is the NIP. Was never going to be any different without breaking the GFA. Simple as.

As was spelt out very clearly by everyone when farage and gove and johnson were saying all would be well

Selfish arrogant wankers

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

It was just unnecessary

Well, not necessarily. It’s a creative solution to avoid a hard customs border in NI.

The EU is prioritising the sanctity of its Single Market above the GFA. The UK Government definitely has a point here and it definitely risks stirring the Unionist community in a similar way a hard border would stir the Nationalist community.

Dynamic alignment is a tool that the Swiss rejected from the EU in recent talks and it’s not something we should entertain either.

 

[clint van damme]

If you go to a Sainsbury’s or Tesco’s at a border town the car park will be full of cars from the South as a lot of food stuff is cheaper in the North than the South. You can’t have a border on the island of Ireland so the only way to control goods and standards of goods traveling to the south is the NIP. Was never going to be any different without breaking the GFA. Simple as.

And this has been known for a long time. They're acting like it's a big surprise.

 

[clint van damme]

Well, not necessarily. It’s a creative solution to avoid a hard customs border in NI.

The EU is prioritising the sanctity of its Single Market above the GFA. The UK Government definitely has a point here and it definitely risks stirring the Unionist community in a similar way a hard border would stir the Nationalist community.

Dynamic alignment is a tool that the Swiss rejected from the EU in recent talks and it’s not something we should entertain either.

Johnson stood in front of that Unionist community and told them there would be no additional checks, he knew he was lying to them.

All countries/trading blocs etc have red lines, we've known for a long time that sanctity of the single market was one of the EU whether we like it or not.

If the best tactic we've got is to hope they back down.on it then that says an awful lot about the charlatans who are running the country

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Says a government representative of a government who’s repeatedly lied to Northern Ireland. As far as I know Macron has never lied to Northern Ireland.

You do realise that Macron has an open agenda around Brexit, I assume?

 

[skybluetony176]

You do realise that Macron has an open agenda around Brexit, I assume?

How’s that different to our government? Except the lying to Northern Ireland.

 

[skybluetony176]

Johnson stood in front of that Unionist community and told them there would be no additional checks, he knew he was lying to them.

All countries/trading blocs etc have red lines, we've known for a long time that sanctity of the single market was one of the EU whether we like it or not.

If the best tactic we've got is to hope they back down.on it then that says an awful lot about the charlatans who are running the country

He did it on more than one occasion too. Once at the DUP conference when he was between jobs and again at a private meeting in NI with unionist business leaders. Told the DUP conference that no British PM would or should ever do the exact deal that he done and then as PM told unionist business leaders that if anyone ever tells them that they have to fill in additional paperwork just throw it in the bin and tell them that the PM told you to do so. Meanwhile back in the real world…