Johnnythespider
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Looking at the 2 halfs of the draw if we get past Germany there is no excuse forvnot making the final
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David O'Day
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Anyway lads, this is the reason for all the right backs. Play them together to try and mark Gosens.
fernandopartridge
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Evo1883
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skybluetony176
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I fancy us against Germany. Won’t be a classic but I’d take another 1-0 if we knock Germany out.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I'm happy we are playing them. Get a chance to prove ourselves.
Great_Expectations
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If, and it’s a big if, Kane can find his form, I’d very much fancy the Kane v Hummels battle.
SeaSeeEffCee
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Think we'll get to the final if we beat Germany. Whether we're good enough to beat Germany is another matter though.
Evo1883
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A semi against Holland will also be a tricky game
SeaSeeEffCee
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Definitely, but a win against someone like Germany is exactly what both the fans and the players need. I think 60k in Wembley would give us a slight advantage in the semis should we get there.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Would losing to Germany in the Round of 16 be apocalyptic? Not really.
I’m advocating patience. If we see of Germany, and beat the winner of Ukraine/Sweden*, we would be in with a v good chance of another semi final.
Would you U-turn on your previous opinions on Southgate?
*Interesting that we were quick to discredit beating them in the WC. They’ve topped their group in their last 2 major tournaments containing Spain and Germany.
COV
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No it wouldn’t be apocalyptic, however I do think that bearing in mind we’re playing a team leagues above the ones we played in the group stages, the time has come to cut loose & show what we can do.
If we lose but put up a great performance, just a case of the better team won, that’s ok. But if we go out with a whimper I’d fear for the kind of backlash Southgate is going to get from people
Ccfcisparks
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If we lose to Germany he needs to go quite frankly
COV
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If we lose the coin toss he should be dismissed there and then
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Certainly believe Germany is a winnable game and we've got more than enough attacking talent to cause them problems.
Trouble is we've got Southgate in charge who'll put them all on a leash to ensure we don't concede, will draw 0-0 and end up losing on penalties and we'll be left wondering what if we'd actually had a proper go at them.
Trouble is we've got Southgate in charge who'll put them all on a leash to ensure we don't concede, will draw 0-0 and end up losing on penalties and we'll be left wondering what if we'd actually had a proper go at them.
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Mucca Mad Boys
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Brighton Sky Blue
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There won't be many better chances to beat this German side, they almost look like they need a pummelling to cast off some of the dead wood along with Low who is well past his sell by date.
cc84cov
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The right backs are to make sure we are ok at left back as he knows he can’t trust shaw
COV
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Take 1966 out of the equation and we have beaten the following teams in knockout tournament football:
Belgium (after extra time)
Cameroon (after extra time)
Denmark
Ecuador
Sweden
Columbia (penalties)
Paraguay
Spain (penalties)
We’ve lost to:
Uruguay
Brazil twice
Germany three times
Argentina twice
Portugal twice
Iceland
Croatia
And in 8 tournaments we’ve failed to get out of the group stage. It’s only really the tradition, the Premier League and the level of support for the game that classifies us as a major footballing nation, results wise we’re upper mid-table at best really.
About time we did something about that I reckon
Mucca Mad Boys
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Agreed. I would absolutely love it if we humiliated Germany in the way they humiliated us in 2010.
I believe we would’ve beaten them in 2018 had we played them - but that’s conjecture.
They’ve conceded 5 goals in the group stages, so we need to exploit that shaky defence.
Yes, I am invoking Keegan here!
David O'Day
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weirdoThe right backs are to make sure we are ok at left back as he knows he can’t trust shaw
COV
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I see nothing to fear at all in Germany’s side. And I mean that I know full well it will be tough, but I think we have the beating of them if we play well.
Mentality will be key- Germany don’t give a toss for us, we can’t go into it treating it like a huge grudge match/ derby- “just another game along the way” needs to be the mantra
COV
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I don’t see too much dead wood tbh- just players at a level that we can match
I would say that key to victory is Kane v Hummels- we need Kane to get out of this slump he’s in and fast- he can win it for us or he can be nullified and end up handing the ball straight back to them. I don’t want to see him in his own half at all- if that happens then something is going badly wrong.
We can forget the previous three matches now- the time to deliver has well and truly arrived, put up or shut up. No what ifs, glorious defeats or excuses- just win at all costs, time to show us they’re not really overrated
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cc84cov
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David O'Day
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I’ll ask again
How much do you wanna bet trippier starts over shaw Tuesday ?
What does that have to do with if Luke Shaw is poor? Is ever player who does start every game poor?
Let us leave your frankly weird defence in the bin and let us talk about why the best left back in the PL is or is not as you claim "poor".
Brighton Sky Blue
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Take 1966 out of the equation and we have beaten the following teams in knockout tournament football:
Belgium (after extra time)
Cameroon (after extra time)
Denmark
Ecuador
Sweden
Columbia (penalties)
Paraguay
Spain (penalties)
We’ve lost to:
Uruguay
Brazil twice
Germany three times
Argentina twice
Portugal twice
Iceland
Croatia
And in 8 tournaments we’ve failed to get out of the group stage. It’s only really the tradition, the Premier League and the level of support for the game that classifies us as a major footballing nation, results wise we’re upper mid-table at best really.
About time we did something about that I reckon
My point was less about us and more about the present state of this German team and especially manager.
Sky Blue Harry H
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I won't feel sorry for Southgate and his £3m a year salary for churning out regular 6/10 performances, if we choke on the back of a turgid backwards/sideways display on Tuesday, I really don't want him in charge of Bellingham, Foden and co in future years. He is an intelligent, well spoken person, yet does not convince me that he can the best out of us. Would love him (or whoever) to be able to do so.