Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (110 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Johnson sounding quite confident that the 19th really will be the date that things ‘return to how they were before Covid as much as possible’. Another 3 deaths today with 22,000 new infections including some lag from yesterday.

 

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[Sick Boy]

Johnson sounding quite confident that the 19th really will be the date that things ‘return to how they were before Covid as much as possible’. Another 3 deaths today with 22,000 new infections including some lag from yesterday.

I’d be surprised if they remove the mask wearing on transport and in public buildings.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I’d be surprised if they remove the mask wearing on transport and in public buildings.

I think all the messaging has been that these will become voluntary, perhaps advisory, but not mandated. And with the proportion of people fully vaccinated I am inclined to agree.

 

[Sick Boy]

I think all the messaging has been that these will become voluntary, perhaps advisory, but not mandated. And with the proportion of people fully vaccinated I am inclined to agree.

Personally I think the number of cases will mean they keep them mandatory until the end of summer.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Personally I think the number of cases will mean they keep them mandatory until the end of summer.

Let’s see

 

[Sick Boy]

What’s up with the increases in cases there? What’s going on?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What’s up with the increases in cases there? What’s going on?

Yeah who’s testing positive and why are people being tested without symptoms or are they all school or people taking tests to do certain things

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah who’s testing positive and why are people being tested without symptoms or are they all school or people taking tests to do certain things

It has emerged that you can fake a positive result by just adding vinegar to the test kit funnily enough

 

[wingy]

It has emerged that you can fake a positive result by just adding vinegar to the test kit funnily enough

Various drinks I hear too.

 

[Evo1883]

It has emerged that you can fake a positive result by just adding vinegar to the test kit funnily enough

Being abused for sick days ?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Being abused for sick days ?

Quite often from what I’ve heard at certain schools

 

[Evo1883]

Quite often from what I’ve heard at certain schools

And these go on the statistics that determine wether we can relax restrictions?

Thunder cunts

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

And these go on the statistics that determine wether we can relax restrictions?

Thunder cunts

I’m not convinced it’ll be happening on the scale of thousands of tests to be fair

 

[Evo1883]

I’m not convinced it’ll be happening on the scale of thousands of tests to be fair

Be amazed , all it took was 1 c**t to buy bog roll in bulk , whack it on social media and then there was none left

 

[fernandopartridge]

Johnson sounding quite confident that the 19th really will be the date that things ‘return to how they were before Covid as much as possible’. Another 3 deaths today with 22,000 new infections including some lag from yesterday.

Monday is usually quiet, the catch up from a lag is on Tuesday

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Monday is usually quiet, the catch up from a lag is on Tuesday

No as in some cases from Sunday weren’t included in yesterday’s figures

 

[CCFCSteve]

No as in some cases from Sunday weren’t included in yesterday’s figures

Yeah, comparing number of tests taken to positive cases is probably better than days at the moment (test numbers have been all over the shop, anywhere between 600k and 1.2m daily). 22k cases is still high though. Increase in PHE Covid inpatients as well however there’s usually a bit of a jump on Monday as lag in recording over weekend. Let’s hope both settle down in coming days

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah, comparing number of tests taken to positive cases is probably better than days at the moment (test numbers have been all over the shop, anywhere between 600k and 1.2m daily). 22k cases is still high though. Increase in PHE Covid inpatients as well however there’s usually a bit of a jump on Monday as lag in recording over weekend. Let’s hope both settle down in coming days

Is there data on length of stay or discharge rates?

 

[Deleted member 9744]

What’s up with the increases in cases there? What’s going on?

An incompetent Government

 

[shmmeee]

Good to see he’s taking the job of health Secretary seriously

 

[CCFCSteve]

Is there data on length of stay or discharge rates?

Ive not seen any but have read bits in the media (shorter, less serious stays as more younger patients)

 

[Ian1779]

Primary schools can and should stay open, they aren’t the main drivers of infection and the children are less able to handle remote learning.

Teaching remotely is harder and a bigger ball ache so it’s not like I’m suggesting it lightly. My wider point is we should be fully unrestricting schools so none of it is needed and we don’t have half in half out

We are going back to mandatory masks in communal areas from tomorrow. 6 cases across 4 days in 2 years. 150 kids self-isolating.

 

[Nick]

We are going back to mandatory masks in communal areas from tomorrow. 6 cases across 4 days in 2 years. 150 kids self-isolating.

Why so many isolating? Surely they can just have a test and stop isolating?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Good to see he’s taking the job of health Secretary seriously

Good to know he's going to look at the data and make a decision based on it .

Still, we all know what this means. CON+10

 

[Ian1779]

Why so many isolating? Surely they can just have a test and stop isolating?

Guidance is if you are in close contact you must self isolate if they have a positive PCR test even if you test negative.

 

[PVA]

It's pretty astonishing that someone can come in after over a year out the cabinet, with no involvement in the Covid response, go straight into the job as Health Secretary and make such claims on his first day in the job.

 

[CCFCSteve]

An incompetent Government

Well, that might be part of the reason, ultimately though the delta variant is far more transmissible and will become the most dominant strain across the world (until another more transmissible one comes along). I’ve said before this is now a race between vaccinations and delta variant transmission in most countries. Delta took hold here quicker due to number of people returning from India, it’s now becoming more prominent in other countries (most have a different cultural/ethnic make up so not as concentrated to start with)

If vaccination programmes haven’t been sufficiently rolled out I’d imagine more restrictions being imposed. I’m just hoping our vaccination programme will sufficiently protect enough of those most at risk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's pretty astonishing that someone can come in after over a year out the cabinet, with no involvement in the Covid response, go straight into the job as Health Secretary and make such claims on his first day in the job.

A way to add 20,000 votes to Thursday's majority. Expose Hancock one day, bin him off the next, hire a replacement who promises the end of all restrictions shortly after. Allow 4 days to rise

 

[CCFCSteve]

It's pretty astonishing that someone can come in after over a year out the cabinet, with no involvement in the Covid response, go straight into the job as Health Secretary and make such claims on his first day in the job.

Yeah, bit overly bold for first working day in office !

He should’ve seen some data (cases leading to hospitalisations) before making that statement...well, I hope so anyway !!!

ps heard earlier that death rate is now less than 1 in a 1000

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Yeah, bit overly bold for first working day in office !

He should’ve seen some data (cases leading to hospitalisations) before making that statement...well, I hope so anyway !!!

It's very Boris Johnson language tbf... and we know what happens whenever he makes a claim about this situation!

 

[CCFCSteve]

It's very Boris Johnson language tbf... and we know what happens whenever he makes a claim about this situation!

Yeah, I did shake my head when I heard the comment. As I say I hope he’s based it on concrete data !

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Yeah, I did shake my head when I heard the comment. As I say I hope he’s based it on concrete data !

It's asserting himself in a new post, and before an election. On the plus side, there's three(?) more weeks for more data to become available, to see if that's right or not. BBC say he said they see no reason to go beyond 19th July, which is a subtly different phrasing that still allows an out if needed.

I'd have certainly thought a 'cautiously optimistic' tone would have been more sensible, though, and the irreversible comment is naive at best... although they seem adept at pointing out things are beyond their control whenever they do reverse an irreversible decision!

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It's asserting himself in a new post, and before an election. On the plus side, there's three(?) more weeks for more data to become available, to see if that's right or not. BBC say he said they see no reason to go beyond 19th July, which is a subtly different phrasing that still allows an out if needed.

I'd have certainly thought a 'cautiously optimistic' tone would have been more sensible, though, and the irreversible comment is naive at best... although they seem adept at pointing out things are beyond their control whenever they do reverse an irreversible decision!

But that's the stupidity of making an 'irreversible' comment. It's never the case, and certainly not in a situation like this, so why even make it other than for a soundbite to get the people that want restrictions lifted regardless (many of whom seem to have the ear of the Tory power base) onside.

 

[CCFCSteve]

It's asserting himself in a new post, and before an election. On the plus side, there's three(?) more weeks for more data to become available, to see if that's right or not. BBC say he said they see no reason to go beyond 19th July, which is a subtly different phrasing that still allows an out if needed.

I'd have certainly thought a 'cautiously optimistic' tone would have been more sensible, though, and the irreversible comment is naive at best... although they seem adept at pointing out things are beyond their control whenever they do reverse an irreversible decision!

Yeah agree, just say what Johnson has been saying ‘looking ok for now’

But that's the stupidity of making an 'irreversible' comment. It's never the case, and certainly not in a situation like this, so why even make it other than for a soundbite to get the people that want restrictions lifted regardless (many of whom seem to have the ear of the Tory power base) onside.

Yeah, never really got the irreversible comment but kind of see it the other way. Its given them the ability to say we don’t want to make rash decisions that we then have to go back on, so let’s wait and review the data inbetween stages...well, until Saj came along .

 

[Skybluefaz]

Becoming a farce with the kids school. We've had instructions via emails from the head that kids should be kept off if they are displaying symptoms of any illness. Also all kids who have positive cases in the year and siblings should get pcr tests. Does my daughter continue to go in? Or do we wait for a negative test? Johnson was telling us that schools are safe in January when everything was fucked but now when loads of people are vaccinated things seem to be more stringent. Then you have Saj coming out saying that he's gonna tell Covid to do one and that's that. Proper fucked off with it.