Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (257 Viewers)
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COV
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Don’t know, don’t care tbh at this stage, and I am not saying you should do the same, just your own personal values I guess.
oakey
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Can you imagine any other scenario in which it would be acceptable for our government to ease restrictions which save lives? Johnson admitted some people will die as a result. The arguments for all safety measures are now weakened - fire regulations, speed limits - use your common sense!
I know we have to ease restrictions but the public still need reminders and clear guidance. For example, if you haven't had double vaccination we strongly advise continued use of face covering and avoidance of crowded indoor settings.
I know we have to ease restrictions but the public still need reminders and clear guidance. For example, if you haven't had double vaccination we strongly advise continued use of face covering and avoidance of crowded indoor settings.
More effective than people tend to think, according to one study cited by the BMJ
Covid-19: Are cloth masks still effective? And other questions answered
In light of new, more transmissible variants of SARS-CoV-2, Elisabeth Mahase examines what kinds of mask the public should be wearing, and where they should be worn Early in the pandemic, major problems in the global supply of medical grade masks meant that the public was asked to avoid using...
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What is certain is lots of workplaces will be on tenterhooks wondering what their paymasters decide happens now...
It's a bit of a cowardly decision to defer it to individuals and organisations really.
Evo1883
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He won't be able to save lives anyway .
At whatever point we decide to open up , cases will rise , people will die and we will keep going on like this .
Would you be happy to wear masks forever , which still won't save all lives
The vaccine part I actually agree with, but we aren't far from that and there WILL be hundreds of thousands that refuse to have it anyway
And we can't force them
Sick Boy
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You’ve asked once and I answered you - they moved them to 5 weeks for under 40s. I have my 2nd on 2nd August.
No they haven’t backtracked - the green pass was rolled out several weeks ago and officially on 1st July.
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British Medical Association say it makes no sense to get rid on public transport, too.More effective than people tend to think, according to one study cited by the BMJ
Covid-19: Are cloth masks still effective? And other questions answered
In light of new, more transmissible variants of SARS-CoV-2, Elisabeth Mahase examines what kinds of mask the public should be wearing, and where they should be worn Early in the pandemic, major problems in the global supply of medical grade masks meant that the public was asked to avoid using...www.bmj.com
Grendel
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So this isn’t true
Italy Planning to Change Its Travel Vaccine Certificate Requirements Amid Delta Variant
Italy is likely to alter the regulations for its health pass during the next upcoming weeks, Deputy Health Minister Perpaolo Sileri said. “It is likely that the Delta variant will force us to remodel the green pass, releasing it after the second dose of a vaccine,” Italy’s Deputy Health Minister...
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COV
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Skybluefaz
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Presumably they are hoping the school summer holidays will have a positive effect on taking cases down?
Sick Boy
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It’s an EU-wide scheme with most other countries only issuing it 15 days after 2 doses.So this isn’t true
Italy Planning to Change Its Travel Vaccine Certificate Requirements Amid Delta Variant
Italy is likely to alter the regulations for its health pass during the next upcoming weeks, Deputy Health Minister Perpaolo Sileri said. “It is likely that the Delta variant will force us to remodel the green pass, releasing it after the second dose of a vaccine,” Italy’s Deputy Health Minister...
Italy issues it 15 days after the first dose, which is what they’re talking about changing.
Evo1883
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David O'Day
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Tommo1993
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Mines July 14th , I might just throw my mask at you instead
At last I’ll get to smell your face.
Evo1883
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Agree with the sentiment but guessing you’re mainly talking about younger adults who haven’t been double jabbed (a majority of which are also at significantly lower risk from Covid). Assuming restrictions are being removed on 19 July pubs and clubs will fully reopen, so after having their social lives curtailed for 16+ months can we realistically see many young adults avoiding both until mid September (whether the government advises them to or not) ?
Grendel
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Grendel what is your issue with Italy?
No issue I’m just looking objectively - he lives in Italy. He was massively critical of extending the length of time between jabs which has worked incredibly well and is a key decision
Spain have extended I think to up to 16 weeks and I think Germany have increased as well
Grendel
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I’m surprised you know what a Peroni is - did you look at one with envy O Drivel when you once again got the 7 litres of happy shopper cider?
hill83
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Yeah we will be back in instantly. I'm not bothered, but there's people on my team who are. Living with vulnerable people etc.
Same office. Do I adjust my life to make them feel at ease? (No is the answer if I'm being honest) Hopefully the business see a bit of sense and allow split office/home working like we have for the last few months.
But then also when, if ever, does it end.
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Is it now I point out Spanish Flu was four years...?
Knock yourself out with some historical pandemics!
Epidemics and isolation
Pandemicshavebeenafeatureofhumanhistoryforthousandsofyears,andStAlbanshasnotbeensparedIsolationwasoftentheonlyweaponagainstvirulentlyinfectiousdiseasesButitwasalsoachoicemadebysomereligiouspeople,liketheanchoressChristinaofMarkyate
Grendel
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Is it now I point out Spanish Flu was four years...?
Knock yourself out with some historical pandemics!
Epidemics and isolation
Pandemicshavebeenafeatureofhumanhistoryforthousandsofyears,andStAlbanshasnotbeensparedIsolationwasoftentheonlyweaponagainstvirulentlyinfectiousdiseasesButitwasalsoachoicemadebysomereligiouspeople,liketheanchoressChristinaofMarkyatewww.stalbanshistory.org
Was any lockdown measures ever in force?
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Well they were during Spanish Flu, yeah.
hill83
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Is it now I point out Spanish Flu was four years...?
Knock yourself out with some historical pandemics!
Epidemics and isolation
Pandemicshavebeenafeatureofhumanhistoryforthousandsofyears,andStAlbanshasnotbeensparedIsolationwasoftentheonlyweaponagainstvirulentlyinfectiousdiseasesButitwasalsoachoicemadebysomereligiouspeople,liketheanchoressChristinaofMarkyate
Without vaccines I assume? (can't be bothered to read up on it)
Grendel
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The whole globe locked down closed shops wore masks etc?
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Of course. Far far more deaths too. Just think how much better they could have done with modern awareness and technology.
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Now, as you well know, you miss context including governance systems, communication, travel, transmission, and global situations.
Anyway, have a read of various pandemics, it's all interesting stuff.
hill83
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Early version of the Wetherspoons app was trialled as well I believe
Sbarcher
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Here in Oxfordshire we have a 5 fold increase in cases from last week, includes 2 of my grandsons from different household who did not mix together. One is 24 and the other 17. Both are very responsible young men so have no idea where they picked it up from. The 24 year old had his first jab 6 weeks ago. Both have been very poorly and bedridden for a few days. We don't have a lot of fatalities right now, but I think we have a long way to go to purge it through our population.
Grendel
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Surely though there is a point when there is an acceptance on the fact risks are now low and therefore economic interests weigh more favourably
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There is. I'd be happier if the BMA weren't considering it an act of gross negligence to make mask wearing on public transport voluntary however. Wearing a mask on a train isn't exactly a massive deal, really. Doesn't stop you doing much, other than flashing that sultry smile of yours at the broad sitting in the corner, crossing and uncrossing her legs like Cupid Stunt.
It killed 250k in 3waves I think.
I said at the start of this if the total got to 200k the government should resign.
Oh forgot they were mostly young .
Something to bear in mind if it's let rip, mutates and comes for your children.
"Coronavirus: How they tried to curb Spanish flu pandemic in 1918 - BBC News" Coronavirus: How they tried to curb Spanish flu pandemic in 1918
I said at the start of this if the total got to 200k the government should resign.
Oh forgot they were mostly young .
Something to bear in mind if it's let rip, mutates and comes for your children.
"Coronavirus: How they tried to curb Spanish flu pandemic in 1918 - BBC News" Coronavirus: How they tried to curb Spanish flu pandemic in 1918