fernandopartridge
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What nobody has said is that last year there was no vaccine but this year it's different
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hill83
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Say it then
Think hill has.
Someone on breakfast telly suggested only 50% innoculated
Grendel
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All risk groups have been offered 2 doses
Ccfcisparks
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just seen someone on Facebook share that Masks do more harm than good? I asked what harm they do and they said that wearing a mask has long term side effects. Anyone know what they supposedly are?
David O'Day
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About 4 days ago the Midlands was at 57% double dosed. so still a way to go.
Also does anyone know why the pace of vaccinations both 1st and 2nd jabs is slowing right down?
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The 'logic' is they restrict airflow, and you start breathing your own breath back in - i.e. carbon dioxide etc.
hill83
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Stinktash
hill83
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It's true, surgeons have been dying left right and centre for decades
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Have to admit, bar a rush hour train (unavoidable), shopping queues (I'll stick with deliveries, more convenient anyway, and can pop to the shop out of busy times if I really need something) and rock concerts or football games (avoidable if I want to) I do my best not to get within two metres of people anyway!
Who wants to stick their face in the presence of a stranger's?!?
Who wants to stick their face in the presence of a stranger's?!?
skybluetony176
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There is off course some people who will rely on herd immunity and not just those who can’t be arsed to get the vaccine or those fruit loops who just reject it.
People with allergies who through no fault of their own can’t have a vaccine. People without a spleen who can’t hold onto certain cell types from any vaccine so until a history is built up they don’t know how effective the vaccine is short, medium or long term for them.
People with allergies who through no fault of their own can’t have a vaccine. People without a spleen who can’t hold onto certain cell types from any vaccine so until a history is built up they don’t know how effective the vaccine is short, medium or long term for them.
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fernandopartridge
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It then
David O'Day
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The mask thing could change between now and the official annoucement next Monday
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It could, and tbh that's the main problem with Johnson all through this, he introduces doubt to just about everything!
baldy
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Exactly…people put them on,take them off,touch surfaces,touch their masks again,touch more surfaces etc - where‘s the actual proof that they even work?
skybluetony176
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So just to recap. The man who said we’ll be pleased to know that he was shaking hands with Covid victims in hospital just before becoming a victim himself and ending up in hospital says that we don’t need to wear masks whereas his scientific advisers have confirmed that they’ll continue to wear masks personally.
Tricky one. Who’s advice should I follow?
Tricky one. Who’s advice should I follow?
baldy
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Use your own mind
shmmeee
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Yeah just flash your booking confirmation at the virus and off it fooks.
COV
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They eventually make your ears permanently stick out from the elastic
shmmeee
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Association of country-wide coronavirus mortality with demographics, testing, lockdowns, and public wearing of masks (Update June 15, 2020)
Background Wide variation between countries has been noted in per-capita mortality from the disease (COVID-19) caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Determinants of this variation are not fully understood. Methods Potential predictors of per-capita coronavirus-related mortality in 198 countries were...
Identifying airborne transmission as the dominant route for the spread of COVID-19
We have elucidated the transmission pathways of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) by analyzing the trend and mitigation measures in the three epicenters. Our results show that the airborne transmission route is highly virulent and dominant for the spread of COVID-19. The mitigation measures...
Physical distancing, face masks, and eye protection to prevent person-to-person transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19: a systematic review and meta-analysis
The findings of this systematic review and meta-analysis support physical distancing of 1 m or more and provide quantitative estimates for models and contact tracing to inform policy. Optimum use of face masks, respirators, and eye protection in public and health-care settings should be informed...
www.thelancet.com
Epidemiological characteristics of COVID-19 in medical staff members of neurosurgery departments in Hubei province: A multicentre descriptive study
Background The novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) has infected a large number of healthcare workers in Hubei province, China. In addition to infectious and respiratory disease physicians, many doctors in other medical fields have been infected. Methods We prospectively collected epidemiological...
A rapid systematic review of the efficacy of face masks and respirators against coronaviruses and other respiratory transmissible viruses for the community, healthcare workers and sick patients
The pandemic of COVID-19 is growing, and a shortage of masks and respirators has been reported globally. Policies of health organizations for healthca…
Transmission of COVID-19 to Health Care Personnel During Exposures ..
Unprotected, prolonged patient contact, as well as certain exposures, including some aerosol-generating procedures, were associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection among health care personnel.
www.cdc.gov
Face Masks Against COVID-19: An Evidence Review
The science around the use of masks by the general public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. Policymakers need guidance on how masks should be used by the general population to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. Here,we develop an analytical framework to examine an overlooked...
Face masks for the public during the covid-19 crisis
Trisha Greenhalgh and colleagues argue that it is time to apply the precautionary principle The precautionary principle is, according to Wikipedia, “a strategy for approaching issues of potential harm when extensive scientific knowledge on the matter is lacking.” The evidence base on the...
The Case for Universal Cloth Mask Adoption and Policies to Increase Supply of Medical Masks for Health Workers
We recommend the immediate universal adoption of cloth facemasks, including homemade, and accompanying policies to increase the supply of medical masks for heal
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Got about another 50 if you want, got bored of copying.
COV
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Association of country-wide coronavirus mortality with demographics, testing, lockdowns, and public wearing of masks (Update June 15, 2020)
Background Wide variation between countries has been noted in per-capita mortality from the disease (COVID-19) caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Determinants of this variation are not fully understood. Methods Potential predictors of per-capita coronavirus-related mortality in 198 countries were...www.medrxiv.org
Identifying airborne transmission as the dominant route for the spread of COVID-19
We have elucidated the transmission pathways of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) by analyzing the trend and mitigation measures in the three epicenters. Our results show that the airborne transmission route is highly virulent and dominant for the spread of COVID-19. The mitigation measures...www.pnas.org
Physical distancing, face masks, and eye protection to prevent person-to-person transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19: a systematic review and meta-analysis
The findings of this systematic review and meta-analysis support physical distancing of 1 m or more and provide quantitative estimates for models and contact tracing to inform policy. Optimum use of face masks, respirators, and eye protection in public and health-care settings should be informed...www.thelancet.com
Epidemiological characteristics of COVID-19 in medical staff members of neurosurgery departments in Hubei province: A multicentre descriptive study
Background The novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) has infected a large number of healthcare workers in Hubei province, China. In addition to infectious and respiratory disease physicians, many doctors in other medical fields have been infected. Methods We prospectively collected epidemiological...
A rapid systematic review of the efficacy of face masks and respirators against coronaviruses and other respiratory transmissible viruses for the community, healthcare workers and sick patients
The pandemic of COVID-19 is growing, and a shortage of masks and respirators has been reported globally. Policies of health organizations for healthca…www.sciencedirect.com
Transmission of COVID-19 to Health Care Personnel During Exposures ..
Unprotected, prolonged patient contact, as well as certain exposures, including some aerosol-generating procedures, were associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection among health care personnel.
Face Masks Against COVID-19: An Evidence Review
The science around the use of masks by the general public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. Policymakers need guidance on how masks should be used by the general population to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. Here,we develop an analytical framework to examine an overlooked...www.preprints.org
Face masks for the public during the covid-19 crisis
Trisha Greenhalgh and colleagues argue that it is time to apply the precautionary principle The precautionary principle is, according to Wikipedia, “a strategy for approaching issues of potential harm when extensive scientific knowledge on the matter is lacking.” The evidence base on the...www.bmj.com
The Case for Universal Cloth Mask Adoption and Policies to Increase Supply of Medical Masks for Health Workers
We recommend the immediate universal adoption of cloth facemasks, including homemade, and accompanying policies to increase the supply of medical masks for healpapers.ssrn.com
Got about another 50 if you want, got bored of copying.
So what are you trying to say?
Sky Blue Pete
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50000 infections a day isn’t great is it? Think the likelihood of a more dangerous variant is unlikely
skybluetony176
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TBF I didn’t have to think about it too long but I’ve decided to ignore the idiot who bragged about shaking hands with people who have Covid thinking he was a hero and decided to listen to the chief medical advisors. Much as I’ve done the whole pandemic.
David O'Day
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It's impossible to tell though
Ian1779
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Hello, I’d like to report a robbery at the local KFC, all the chicken has gone…
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clint van damme
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Cauliflower ear
clint van damme
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You'd be better off borrowing someone else's mate
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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According to what I've heard about the air quality and toxins on there it'd be best to do so for your own health regardless
Association of country-wide coronavirus mortality with demographics, testing, lockdowns, and public wearing of masks (Update June 15, 2020)
Background Wide variation between countries has been noted in per-capita mortality from the disease (COVID-19) caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Determinants of this variation are not fully understood. Methods Potential predictors of per-capita coronavirus-related mortality in 198 countries were...
Identifying airborne transmission as the dominant route for the spread of COVID-19
We have elucidated the transmission pathways of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) by analyzing the trend and mitigation measures in the three epicenters. Our results show that the airborne transmission route is highly virulent and dominant for the spread of COVID-19. The mitigation measures...
Physical distancing, face masks, and eye protection to prevent person-to-person transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19: a systematic review and meta-analysis
The findings of this systematic review and meta-analysis support physical distancing of 1 m or more and provide quantitative estimates for models and contact tracing to inform policy. Optimum use of face masks, respirators, and eye protection in public and health-care settings should be informed...www.thelancet.com
Epidemiological characteristics of COVID-19 in medical staff members of neurosurgery departments in Hubei province: A multicentre descriptive study
Background The novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) has infected a large number of healthcare workers in Hubei province, China. In addition to infectious and respiratory disease physicians, many doctors in other medical fields have been infected. Methods We prospectively collected epidemiological...
A rapid systematic review of the efficacy of face masks and respirators against coronaviruses and other respiratory transmissible viruses for the community, healthcare workers and sick patients
The pandemic of COVID-19 is growing, and a shortage of masks and respirators has been reported globally. Policies of health organizations for healthca…
Transmission of COVID-19 to Health Care Personnel During Exposures ..
Unprotected, prolonged patient contact, as well as certain exposures, including some aerosol-generating procedures, were associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection among health care personnel.
Face Masks Against COVID-19: An Evidence Review
The science around the use of masks by the general public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. Policymakers need guidance on how masks should be used by the general population to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. Here,we develop an analytical framework to examine an overlooked...
Face masks for the public during the covid-19 crisis
Trisha Greenhalgh and colleagues argue that it is time to apply the precautionary principle The precautionary principle is, according to Wikipedia, “a strategy for approaching issues of potential harm when extensive scientific knowledge on the matter is lacking.” The evidence base on the...
The Case for Universal Cloth Mask Adoption and Policies to Increase Supply of Medical Masks for Health Workers
We recommend the immediate universal adoption of cloth facemasks, including homemade, and accompanying policies to increase the supply of medical masks for healpapers.ssrn.com
Got about another 50 if you want, got bored of copying.
Gotta hear both sides
Sky Blue Pete
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I’m no expert at all but virus’ are like any life form they like to continue to exist so it serves no useful purpose to kill it’s host
So I’m hoping.
My personal opinion is that we will be locked down again as hospitals are overwhelmed, probably some time between October and February