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Evo1883

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Il be honest , I don't know how I'd set up against Italy , another pundit alluded to that too saying he wasn't sure how we should set up .
 

COV

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Il be honest , I don't know how I'd set up against Italy , another pundit alluded to that too saying he wasn't sure how we should set up .

It’s gonna be same team I’d think, I can’t see Southgate changing too much, not in his nature
 

Evo1883

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Is the 3rd /4th playoff on Saturday, haven't looked because we aren't in it 🤣

*just looked there isn't one , completely forgot euros don't have one
 

TomRad85

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Is the 3rd /4th playoff on Saturday, haven't looked because we aren't in it
Do they even have them in the Euros? Not even taking the piss, genuinely no idea.

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Mucca Mad Boys

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I’d agree with anyone else apart from Italy.. apart from Germany maybe

I think I saw somewhere on Opta that Italy have a 69% chance of winning- don’t know how they work it out but I think it’s based on all the stats from matches so far

The stattos at Goldman Sachs reckon we have a 58% chance of winning and are predicting England to win in extra time. They predicted 2-1 v Denmark and the same for Sunday.

I have had a few disagreements with mates on this, but Italy haven’t looked that good in the knockout stages. Their impressive win against Belgium was flanked by an unimpressive extra time win against Austria and they were second best against Spain. If I’m harsh, I think their group stage was harder on paper than in reality and that’s padded their stats. It’s going to be a tough game against them!

Are they beatable? Absolutely.
 

covmark

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I had a spreadsheet of all potential fixtures and booked everything I needed off accordingly. But somehow have ended up in the office for a nightshift tonight absolutely hanging out of my arse.
Haha the memories of last night will get you through tonight mate.

My days off have fallen really well for this tournament, only had to book a couple off.

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Sick Boy

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The stattos at Goldman Sachs reckon we have a 58% chance of winning and are predicting England to win in extra time. They predicted 2-1 v Denmark and the same for Sunday.

I have had a few disagreements with mates on this, but Italy haven’t looked that good in the knockout stages. Their impressive win against Belgium was flanked by an unimpressive extra time win against Austria and they were second best against Spain. If I’m harsh, I think their group stage was harder on paper than in reality and that’s padded their stats. It’s going to be a tough game against them!

Are they beatable? Absolutely.
And England’s extra time win was a penalty against 10 men 😉
 

wingy

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Well they used all available
I’d argue that the only reason they had 10 men was that they were under so much pressure that they had to use up all their subs. So we basically forced them to play with 10 👍

Well they used all available
quite early on on and were Banking on taking it to penalties I think.
 
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Sick Boy

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Italy England is the final i thought it would be after the stars aligned with the route .(thought we'd lose in the last 16 before that 🤣)

I think we can beat them , but we have to get it right .

England 2 - 1 Italy AET

Kane x 2 and tournament top scorer
I predicted Italy would be dark horses and then an England V Italy final despite Italy only winning in Rome. ;)
I reckon England will prosper - probably 2-1
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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And England’s extra time win was a penalty against 10 men 😉

We could caveat that, but anyone watching the game would have felt we had the beating of Denmark from around the 70th minute. They defended well, but we passed on 2-3 really good attacking opportunities when we were 2-1 up.

It’s an academic point to make, but I believe we would have scored anyway had Sterling’s penalty not been given.

The game was a complete reversal from 2018, we looked quite fresh even in extra time.
 

Hutch11

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Humble pie, in Gareth we trust
I've begrudgingly accepted that he probably knows better than me so whatever the line up I believe that he'll get it right
 
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We could caveat that, but anyone watching the game would have felt we had the beating of Denmark from around the 70th minute. They defended well, but we passed on 2-3 really good attacking opportunities when we were 2-1 up.

It’s an academic point to make, but I believe we would have scored anyway had Sterling’s penalty not been given.

The game was a complete reversal from 2018, we looked quite fresh even in extra time.

It was actually before that, as it was the 63rd minute when the Danes forced the 4-5 min break in play by having their chap sit on the floor whilst they sorted out their subs, and then farted around some more, had a drinks break and provided new team instructions. The tactic worked in putting us out of out stride for a while.
 
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Liquid Gold

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I was actually shocked how early Denmark tried to close the game down. It was only a little after an hour, that means if they were playing for pens with only half of the game gone.

You don't do that against a team you consider your equal.

I love how Southgate has them playing in phases where they are less intense and just keep the ball for a little bit to preserve energy. Doing that, and also being able to make so many subs when they were comfortably winning in the previous game, is probably why they seem so fresh.
 

Macca

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It’s a really alien feeling after watching England since 1982 but maybe we are just good now. We have enough players to hurt Italy and a home advantage so who knows. In a sense we have already achieved more than ever in 55 years so perhaps the pressure is off like City in 87
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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It was actually before that, as it was the 63rd minute when the Danes forced the 4-5 min break in play by having their chap sit on the floor whilst they sorted out their subs, and then farted around some more, had a drinks break and provide new team instructions. The tactic worked in putting us out of out stride for a while.

I think their manager making all those subs early prevented the game from being ended within 90 minutes. It was also a shrewd move from Southgate to make the one sub in normal time. We were in complete control in extra time and that was epitomised by the way we just kept the ball for a few minutes to see the game out.

Good stuff, well managed.
 

Macca

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I would do nothing different than he has done up to now. Trying to get clever in such a massive game could backfire
 

Sick Boy

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What's it like over there mate? Euros mad? Are they confident of beating us?

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I’m currently in Lampedusa at the moment so a bit cut off my from it. My Italian friends have had little expectations though, so they’re playing without the usual pressure that comes with tournaments here. The failure to qualify in 2018 was like a political scandal in the UK.
My neighbour has set up a giant screen in his garden for Sunday though with 100 beers for the occasion. 👍
 

covmark

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I’m currently in Lampedusa at the moment so a bit cut off my from it. My Italian friends have had little expectations though, so they’re playing without the usual pressure that comes with tournaments here. The failure to qualify in 2018 was like a political scandal in the UK.
My neighbour has set up a giant screen in his garden for Sunday though with 100 beers for the occasion.
Have a great day mate. Hopefully ends with your neighbour extremely pissed off haha

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Liquid Gold

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I think if we actually managed to win on Sunday and get the hoodoo off our backs we could end up going deep pretty regularly. It's getting that first trophy and winning feeling, monkey off your back etc.

It would be good to be viewed by other big teams as one of them instead of just putting ourselves there.
 

Bugsy

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Do they even have them in the Euros? Not even taking the piss, genuinely no idea.

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Decent idea that thou think they should and add to the FIFA ranking
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I think if we actually managed to win on Sunday and get the hoodoo off our backs we could end up going deep pretty regularly. It's getting that first trophy and winning feeling, monkey off your back etc.

It would be good to be viewed by other big teams as one of them instead of just putting ourselves there.

With the World Cup being next year, it’s very good for momentum and then the following Euros in 2024.

Looking at the squad, most of them will be around for the next 6-10 years at least. The only area of ‘concern’ we have is developing future world class central defenders.
 

COV

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I think if we actually managed to win on Sunday and get the hoodoo off our backs we could end up going deep pretty regularly. It's getting that first trophy and winning feeling, monkey off your back etc.

It would be good to be viewed by other big teams as one of them instead of just putting ourselves there.

Definitely, a complete change of mindset
 

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