European championships 2020 thread (12 Viewers)

[cc84cov]

5 UK accounts sent racial abuse according to BBC.

What needs to happen is some form of identity to open a social media account why ? Because its not just racism that's a problem , there's bullying and harassment and more

It's a free for all with no consequence, these platforms are actively dividing society and creating societal problems .

They can no longer continue the way they are

Mention Covid or post a half naked photo Instagram take it down and you get a warning for breaking rules but racist stuff is ok they let that go it’s a disgrace

 

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[SlowerThanPlatt]

Talksport , live at the rashford mural to discuss the racism aimed at rashford .

Trevor sinclair among the 3

Ex-footballer Trevor Sinclair loses BBC role after admitting racial abuse

Former England international sentenced to community service for racially abusing police officer after arrest for drink-driving

www.theguardian.com

I'm done

Matterface and ‘Goughy’, what a trio.

 

[SBT]

5 people tweeted from the UK? Feels like 50% of the country the way the media has gone on about it.

Obviously those need to be dealt with, but it goes without saying.

I think the fact that racist abuse "goes without saying" is precisely the problem, and it's a good thing that it's getting called out as forcefully as it is. The numbers involved don't especially bother me, and I'm not sure why they would.

 

[Evo1883]

Have the media had a chance to dissect the failure of the final yet ?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

5 people only is bollocks. That’s just apparently the people who directly tweeted the players. There are more up above in this very thread coming out with vile stuff- are they included in this alleged grand total of 5 people or do they not count as they didn’t post directly to the players?

Please point out where anyone has said anything racist in this thread.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I think the fact that racist abuse "goes without saying" is precisely the problem, and it's a good thing that it's getting called out as forcefully as it is. The numbers involved don't especially bother me, and I'm not sure why they would.

Eh? Nowt wrong with just saying racist abuse = bad really, is there. What more needs to be said, other than that?!?

 

[Skybluefaz]

Please point out where anyone has said anything racist in this thread.

Think he's referring to the Pompey youth players.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

On the plus side there'll be applause and support, and no moronic booing when players take the knee next season.

 

[Evo1883]

On the plus side there'll be applause and support, and no moronic booing when players take the knee next season.

Well I won't applause.

Il just take a sip of my coffee and respectfully observe my surroundings .

I'm in the camp where hopefully nobody boos so we can just get it over with

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Have the media had a chance to dissect the failure of the final yet ?

The Athletic has two really good articles on the final.

To summarise very basically, we passed up too many opportunities to counter attack, we defended really well until we went to 4-3-3. England ‘controlled the game without the ball’ was a quote from a coach from Dortmund.

From the Telegraph, we were right to be cautious, but we weren’t good enough at it.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Eh? Nowt wrong with just saying racist abuse = bad really, is there. What more needs to be said, other than that?!?

I'm pretty sure no one has said racist abuse is good either...

 

[Evo1883]

The Athletic has two really good articles on the final.

To summarise very basically, we passed up too many opportunities to counter attack, we defended really well until we went to 4-3-3. England ‘controlled the game without the ball’ was a quote from a coach from Dortmund.

From the Telegraph, we were right to be cautious, but we weren’t good enough at it.

Felt like we were losing control before we went to 433 tbh .

Felt like they took total Control once they made the 2 subs after half time ,we then waited 16 minutes to counter their subs and try and change it..by that time their confidence showed In their dominance

 

[COV]

Please point out where anyone has said anything racist in this thread.

The Portsmouth players?

 

[Grendel]

The Portsmouth players?

Are they logged in?

 

[SBAndy]

Felt like we were losing control before we went to 433 tbh .

Felt like they took total Control once they made the 2 subs after half time ,we then waited 16 minutes to counter their subs and try and change it..by that time their confidence showed In their dominance

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. At half time I felt like we had things under control and had eased off so as to conserve energy, but we just never got going again. The move to a back 4 came about 15 minutes too late and meant that we had no out ball.

Mount was an issue as well - he had a bit of a stinking tournament in the end. It was silly for him to continue playing a nominal ‘wide right’ position when we were trying to get out, and all of the defensive work in the world ain’t gonna make a difference when the ball comes straight back. Sancho or Saka were required much earlier to get someone able to carry the ball out at pace.

 

[TomRad85]

The one question no one seems to be asking is... do we think Saka will get a Pizza Hut advert?

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[Ccfcisparks]

The case with the Portsmouth players show that some people are racist and more subtle about it. Not everyone is going to tweet it because not everyone is an idiot. I'd imagine theres a few group chats the last few days that have gone along the same lines.

 

[COV]

The case with the Portsmouth players show that some people are racist and more subtle about it. Not everyone is going to tweet it because not everyone is an idiot. I'd imagine theres a few group chats the last few days that have gone along the same lines.

If anyone seriously thought that there were only 5 people being racist they are very thick. That’s not saying that we are a racist country but the law of numbers alone should tell anyone with a brain that a fair few would have been up to no good.

Anyway I’m off to watch Dragons Den.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Felt like we were losing control before we went to 433 tbh .

Felt like they took total Control once they made the 2 subs after half time ,we then waited 16 minutes to counter their subs and try and change it..by that time their confidence showed In their dominance

We limited Italy to low quality chances throughout and were quite comfortable. However, our transition play was non existent. So we were defending as if it were the final 5 minutes for around 65 minutes and there’s examples of Rice, Maguire, Phillips and Walker punting the ball down field and surrendering possession despite being under little to no pressure.

We need more moments like Saka catching Chiellini on the outside - which happened in the 90th minute.

Judging from what Southgate has said after the Euros, I think he’ll learn from this.

 

[Evo1883]

If anyone seriously thought that there were only 5 people being racist they are very thick. That’s not saying that we are a racist country but the law of numbers alone should tell anyone with a brain that a fair few would have been up to no good.

Anyway I’m off to watch Dragons Den.

Have I just warped back to 2010 ..dragons den ?

Stop it

 

[Deleted member 4439]

I'm told by a very reliable colleague who was watching in an Earlsdon establishment that when the pens went astray there was more than one utterance of the W word. Given the sort of racist abuse I've heard from City 'fans' at away games I shouldn't be surprised, and yet I still found it genuinely shocking.

 

[Evo1883]

We limited Italy to low quality chances throughout and were quite comfortable. However, our transition play was non existent. So we were defending as if it were the final 5 minutes for around 65 minutes and there’s examples of Rice, Maguire, Phillips and Walker punting the ball down field and surrendering possession despite being under little to no pressure.

We need more moments like Saka catching Chiellini on the outside - which happened in the 90th minute.

Judging from what Southgate has said after the Euros, I think he’ll learn from this.

You have more faith than me .

Here's hoping

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. At half time I felt like we had things under control and had eased off so as to conserve energy, but we just never got going again. The move to a back 4 came about 15 minutes too late and meant that we had no out ball.

Mount was an issue as well - he had a bit of a stinking tournament in the end. It was silly for him to continue playing a nominal ‘wide right’ position when we were trying to get out, and all of the defensive work in the world ain’t gonna make a difference when the ball comes straight back. Sancho or Saka were required much earlier to get someone able to carry the ball out at pace.

I agree that it would have probably have been better to have started either Saka or Sancho.

An interesting stat from the game was our passing completion in the final was 74.9%. This was about 10% below our average for our tournament so it’s entirely possible that the team lost its composure somewhat too.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

If anyone seriously thought that there were only 5 people being racist they are very thick. That’s not saying that we are a racist country but the law of numbers alone should tell anyone with a brain that a fair few would have been up to no good.

Anyway I’m off to watch Dragons Den.

It's just baseless accusations.

Unless you can read people's minds and thought police them, or come up with a Minority Report style system then it is best to start rounding up the people that have actually committed an offence, which currently stands at 5 plus the Pompey group chat (of which none of them are registered posters on this forum in all likelihood).

Exaggerating a problem or deciding more people are racist than the figures suggest because you want to stand on a high and mighty hill does no one any favours.

As for inferring that that people on this thread have been racist, I am absolutely certain that they would be blocked and shot down by 100% of everyone else if it was the case.

 

[Evo1883]

I agree that it would have probably have been better to have started either Saka or Sancho.

An interesting stat from the game was our passing completion in the final was 74.9%. This was about 10% below our average for our tournament so it’s entirely possible that the team lost its composure somewhat too.

We also really have to congratulate the way Italy approached the game .

After the first 20 minutes they took control , were positive, good on the ball and looked to attack us

We can argue about why England lost , but the reality is we just arent as good a team as the Italians , either that or their play style Completely counters ours

Mancini is a good manager , club and country
if you're good you're good

 

[Ccfcisparks]

It's just baseless accusations.

Unless you can read people's minds and thought police them, or come up with a Minority Report style system then it is best to start rounding up the people that have actually committed an offence, which currently stands at 5 plus the Pompey group chat (of which none of them are registered posters on this forum in all likelihood).

Exaggerating a problem or deciding more people are racist than the figures suggest because you want to stand on a high and mighty hill does no one any favours.

As for inferring that that people on this thread have been racist, I am absolutely certain that they would be blocked and shot down by 100% of everyone else if it was the case.

If you think only 8 people in this country made racist comments after the England game you really are thick.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

If you think only 8 people in this country made racist comments after the England game you really are thick.

I never said only 8 people made racist comments.

Also, stop calling people thick when you cannot decipher other people's posts properly.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

You have more faith than me .

Here's hoping

The evidence is there. 4th place in the World Cup, 3rd place in the Nations League and runners up in the Euros.

This is was achieved by the 2nd or 3rd youngest squad in the tournament.

The failures hurt, for sure. But, I highly doubt anyone was calling for Joachim Löw’s sacking following defeats in a final and 2 semi-finals before 2014. Or, Didier Deschamps after Euro 2016.

The main thing is that we’re starting to build a culture whereby being in the latter stages of a tournament is being normalised. That is so key for future success.

 

[COV]

I never said only 8 people made racist comments.

Also, stop calling people thick when you cannot decipher other people's posts properly.

But you did say it was only 5 plus the Portsmouth players?

 

[Evo1883]

The evidence is there. 4th place in the World Cup, 3rd place in the Nations League and runners up in the Euros.

This is was achieved by the 2nd or 3rd youngest squad in the tournament.

The failures hurt, for sure. But, I highly doubt anyone was calling for Joachim Löw’s sacking following defeats in a final and 2 semi-finals before 2014. Or, Didier Deschamps after Euro 2016.

The main thing is that we’re starting to build a culture whereby being in the latter stages of a tournament is being normalised. That is so key for future success.

Like I said , more faith than me .

Qatar will be harder than this euros I fear , and we may not get a good draw for a 3rd consecutive tournament

 

[Evo1883]

But you did say it was only 5 plus the Portsmouth players?

I think the correct answer is .. that we know of

No doubt more , especially in private but we'd never know about that anyway

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

But you did say it was only 5 plus the Portsmouth players?

Ok it was 99% of England being racist. Do you feel better about yourself now?

You know exactly what I am trying to say but want to keep yourself on the moral high ground.

Believe it or not, you cannot prosecute someone for what their mate said, possibly, in a pub. Maybe.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I think the correct answer is .. that we know of

No doubt more , especially in private but we'd never know about that anyway

Burn everyone just in case.

Then I'll post a Facebook status about it and hopefully get some likes...

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Ok it was 99% of England being racist. Do you feel better about yourself now?

You know exactly what I am trying to say but want to keep yourself on the moral high ground.

Believe it or not, you cannot prosecute someone for what their mate said, possibly, in a pub. Maybe.

No you’re right there was 8 people being racist in the entire country. The whole fall out from it has been well over the top.

 

[Evo1883]

Burn everyone just in case.

Then I'll post a Facebook status about it and hopefully get some likes...

I agree