21/22 Summer transfer mega-thread (26 Viewers)

[Liquid Gold]

I just don’t know how we went from a CM being the priority signing to us seemingly not being interested in one.

 

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[SBAndy]

I have no issue with getting a CM don't get me wrong

But LWB and CB is the priority for me

Agree - if it’s an either/or then it would make sense but if we can’t fill those voids having now got 4 arguably first team strikers then it’s a bit daft.

 

[Frostie]

I have no issue with getting a CM don't get me wrong

But LWB and CB is the priority for me

For sure, but no reason to think we won't get all 3. MR's comments suggest the LWB & CB are imminent.
If anything comes of the Cranie rumour he can do a decent job as backup in CDM, depends how long Kelly & Eccles are out for I guess.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

For sure, but no reason to think we won't get all 3. MR's comments suggest the LWB & CB are imminent.
If anything comes of the Cranie rumour he can do a decent job as backup in CDM, depends how long Kelly & Eccles are out for I guess.

Maybe I'm going mad, or having really rather tedious dreams (both entirely possible!) but wasn't it thought Drysdale might be better suited to defensive midfield than centre back, long term?

 

[Terry_dactyl]

I just don’t know how we went from a CM being the priority signing to us seemingly not being interested in one.

Exactly. I’m sure this is a priority. We wouldn’t have been in for James/Walsh if we didn’t think it needed strengthening.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

To be honest, I’d have chopped Kelly out and got an upgrade but we are where we are.

With how this market have been, that wouldn’t be worth the risk, injured or not.

We definitely need someone in that role with experience.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

James and Hamer played the last 3 games.

Obviously, Kelly got injured.

 

[kg82]

Obviously, Kelly got injured.

He did. But you said “it’s no surprise we finished the season with James and Kelly in that position”, which isn’t correct. And we finished the season quite well.

 

[Frostie]

Maybe I'm going mad, or having really rather tedious dreams (both entirely possible!) but wasn't it thought Drysdale might be better suited to defensive midfield than centre back, long term?

Not sure if the plan is ultimately to move him in to Midfield but he can certainly play there yeah, played as CDM in a Midfield 3 a handful of times for Gillingham last season, even picked in that role ahead of Eccles on occasion.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Not sure if the plan is ultimately to move him in to Midfield but he can certainly play there yeah, played as CDM in a Midfield 3 a handful of times for Gillingham last season, even picked in that role ahead of Eccles on occasion.

So... and I'm not saying that's what should happen in this case, as I have no idea of his current level really... but at some stage there has to be space for the young-ish players to make a push for the first team, and gain some first team experience with us. Drysdale's 21 now(?) so really should be looking to step up, if not this season, then next, if he's got any hopes of doing so long term.

 

[Grendel]

So... and I'm not saying that's what should happen in this case, as I have no idea of his current level really... but at some stage there has to be space for the young-ish players to make a push for the first team, and gain some first team experience with us. Drysdale's 21 now(?) so really should be looking to step up, if not this season, then next, if he's got any hopes of doing so long term.

He's not going to be good enough at this level I would suspect

 

[Deleted member 5849]

He's not going to be good enough at this level I would suspect

Well if not, he's at an age where he needs a move elsewhere.

General point is, though, that we shouldn;t sign players for the sake of signing them. If management think Drysdale can make it, there needs to be space for him to play now and again. if not... then fair thee well!

 

[SBAndy]

Well if not, he's at an age where he needs a move elsewhere.

General point is, though, that we shouldn;t sign players for the sake of signing them. If management think Drysdale can make it, there needs to be space for him to play now and again. if not... then fair thee well!

And from what I’ve seen he’s not so bad as to not attract interest. I’d probably move him on now to be honest as I’m not entirely convinced he has developed at the pace that the club has - another who has personally suffered due to our progress in the last 2 years.

 

[Deity]

Why do people think CCFC don’t want a CM, Robins tried for James and Walsh and said at the weekend we look short in that area.
We want one, we just have not landed one.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Maybe I'm going mad, or having really rather tedious dreams (both entirely possible!) but wasn't it thought Drysdale might be better suited to defensive midfield than centre back, long term?

That’s was dabo

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Not really been paying a huge amount of attention but it seems from attacking midfield backwards we are worse than last season.

Hopefully it will be alright, but it does feel pretty Mowbray at the moment.

 

[cc84cov]

Not really been paying a huge amount of attention but it seems from attacking midfield backwards we are worse than last season.

Hopefully it will be alright, but it does feel pretty Mowbray at the moment.

A non existent budget hasn’t helped robins

 

[DannyThomas_1981]

To be honest, I’d have chopped Kelly out and got an upgrade but we are where we are.

Don't get this at all.
Kelly was very influential last season when he was fully fit. He easily stepped up to the level of the Championship.
Like many others I see that Sheaf has potential but on the evidence of last season I don't see Sheaf starting ahead of Kelly at this time.

 

[DannyThomas_1981]

Not sure if the plan is ultimately to move him in to Midfield but he can certainly play there yeah, played as CDM in a Midfield 3 a handful of times for Gillingham last season, even picked in that role ahead of Eccles on occasion.

Playing CDM in the Championship - I can't see that it's the right position for Drysdale as he doesn't have the pace. Without pace you're going to get seriously exposed at this level in that position.

 

[skyblueelephant76]

Not really been paying a huge amount of attention but it seems from attacking midfield backwards we are worse than last season.

Hopefully it will be alright, but it does feel pretty Mowbray at the moment.

We're a couple of players away from a competitive side, it's not even in the same universe as the Mowbray transfer window.

 

[mr_monkey]

Not really been paying a huge amount of attention but it seems from attacking midfield backwards we are worse than last season.

Hopefully it will be alright, but it does feel pretty Mowbray at the moment.

Jesus Christ

 

[mr_monkey]

A non existent budget hasn’t helped robins

The non existent budget that has allowed us to sign 5 permanent players you mean with more coming in on loan before the start of the season, sounds pretty existing to me

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Playing CDM in the Championship - I can't see that it's the right position for Drysdale as he doesn't have the pace. Without pace you're going to get seriously exposed at this level in that position.

Really? CDMs aren't exactly renowned for their pace. Bar GK, it's one of the fews position where you can actually get away with not having pace.

 

[Deity]

The non existent budget that has allowed us to sign 5 permanent players you mean with more coming in on loan before the start of the season, sounds pretty existing to me

You have to factor in the number of players that have left the club too.

We have fewer players and a weaker defence and midfield ….. our attacking options look better.

overall we are weaker but with players still to come in that can change

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

He did. But you said “it’s no surprise we finished the season with James and Kelly in that position”, which isn’t correct. And we finished the season quite well.

How do you define finished the season? I’d say the final 10 games or so and that was our go to line up.

Despite battering Millwall, we had a slight drop off from our prior 3 games as we lost to PNE and drew to Huddersfield of the back off of a 3 winning streak

 

[DannyThomas_1981]

Really? CDMs aren't exactly renowned for their pace. Bar GK, it's one of the fews position where you can actually get away with not having pace.

All opinions KSB but there's no way you can play that position in the modern game at a high level without pace.

 

[mr_monkey]

You have to factor in the number of players that have left the club too.

We have fewer players and a weaker defence and midfield ….. our attacking options look better.

overall we are weaker but with players still to come in that can change

So you think that the outgoing player wages have paid for all the transfer fees, signing on fees, agent fees and wages for the new signings... Bloody hell

 

[COV]

A non existent budget hasn’t helped robins

Tends to happen when you spend money, your budget gets smaller

 

[Tea & Busquets]

Should we make signings to tackle temporary issues? Sometimes just need tonget through a month on bare bones dont you?

CM is not a priority for me

i would much rather stick it out till january and give Howley a shot till then

 

[usskyblue]

Tends to happen when you spend money, your budget gets smaller

Tell my fucking missus that

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

i would much rather stick it out till january and give Howley a shot till then

…he’s 17, has a better chance than most of eventually playing first team but I would suggest he’s a long way off that atm.

 

[COV]

You have to factor in the number of players that have left the club too.

We have fewer players and a weaker defence and midfield ….. our attacking options look better.

overall we are weaker but with players still to come in that can change

You also have to factor in that we have a full season of Championship experience under our belt, you can't train that in. Mentally, physically & tactically we've been there and thats invaluable. Next season won't be as close as last season was to relegation (and we weren't all that close in the end).

Derby have already had it unless they get taken over in the season, they are this season's Sheffield Wednesday. 2 relegation spots to avoid.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

All opinions KSB but there's no way you can play that position in the modern game at a high level without pace.

Fabinho, Henderson, Rodri, Rice, Soucek, Busquets, Casemeiro. Do I need to go on?

 

[Tea & Busquets]

…he’s 17, has a better chance than most of eventually playing first team but I would suggest he’s a long way off that atm.

we wouldn’t thrown him straight into the deep end, ease him in and if his performances are good we give him more time

 

[Deity]

So you think that the outgoing player wages have paid for all the transfer fees, signing on fees, agent fees and wages for the new signings... Bloody hell

I didn’t say it did. I said you judge a budget based on outgoings and incomings not just incomings.