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Yeah, if I could guarantee I'd catch the thing and basically be alright after two or three weeks, I'd take it, get it out the way.
Shame there aren't those guarantees!
Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (214 Viewers)
- Thread starter BackRoomRummermill
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Shame there aren't those guarantees!
I'm sure there is a fair chunk of society who are wandering around who are unaware of inherited conditions, although the screening for problems is pretty good.
Johnnythespider
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In terms of shielding they also weren't in the at risk group's
shmmeee
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In the opticians with my daughter today, signs up “this is a medical environment please wear a mask at all times”
while we’re being seen a guy comes in.
Optician: do you have a mask?
Man: Nah I’m exempt, got asthma
O: Oh me too! I always wear a mask though, it can be quite bad if you have it
Man: Nah, load of bollocks, it’s just the flu, I’ve had it twice. Of course I couldn’t walk up stairs for a couple of weeks after but it’s just a flu
O: Oh have you had your jab then?
Man: Nah load of shit, not letting them out that in me
O: Oh, they’re saying you’ll have to have it to go abroad
Man: I’ve got a camper van, don’t want to go abroad
O: OK, anyway look at this green light…
Man: Yeah Bill Gates in the WHO wants to cull the population, been saying it for twenty years look it up
O: OK, just look here
Man: I get your scared, I can see it, but I’ve done my research…
And so on. As he left he shouts out “Bill Gates, check it out”
Woman deserves a medal.
while we’re being seen a guy comes in.
Optician: do you have a mask?
Man: Nah I’m exempt, got asthma
O: Oh me too! I always wear a mask though, it can be quite bad if you have it
Man: Nah, load of bollocks, it’s just the flu, I’ve had it twice. Of course I couldn’t walk up stairs for a couple of weeks after but it’s just a flu
O: Oh have you had your jab then?
Man: Nah load of shit, not letting them out that in me
O: Oh, they’re saying you’ll have to have it to go abroad
Man: I’ve got a camper van, don’t want to go abroad
O: OK, anyway look at this green light…
Man: Yeah Bill Gates in the WHO wants to cull the population, been saying it for twenty years look it up
O: OK, just look here
Man: I get your scared, I can see it, but I’ve done my research…
And so on. As he left he shouts out “Bill Gates, check it out”
Woman deserves a medal.
clint van damme
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what are the chances of two posters from here being in the same opticians?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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For the most part that's true though.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Some people on here have said it only kills these people and anyone young and reasonably healthy will be fine. That's not true.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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It doesn't only kill elderly people and those with underlying health conditions, but I would guess a very high amount of deaths are attributed to those in either category. Do you have the stats? Happy to look over them if so.
Grendel
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Paxman
skybluetony176
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I was reading something the other day (I’ll have to look it up for a link) that was comparing on average how much victims of Covid had have been expected to live had they not caught it compared to life expectancy had people not died from seasonal flu. Basically on average people who have died of Covid would have been expected to live another 10 years had they not caught it compared to people who have died of seasonal flu who would have been expected to live an extra 5 years had they not caught it.
shmmeee
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Small percentages of very big numbers are still big numbers.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I don't disagree at all.
fernandopartridge
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Even if you don't die, if you get ill enough to spend time in hospital with any kind of respiratory support, it's going to be a long time to full recovery and your lungs are likely to be damaged for good. I think anybody choosing not to have a vaccine is pretty mental tbh.
Grendel
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No we just have focussed on adults whereas the Eu have vaccinated across all over 12 and quote percentages of the whole population
Good bit of EU spin though
Only approx 35k per day first doses. Slower up take amongst the young uns but that’s probably offset a bit by natural immunity/antibodies in those younger age groups. If everyone who’s got a first dose gets a second that’s 89% of adult population (currently 74%). I don’t think anyone would’ve expected such a high take up at the start of the roll out
There’s been talk of herd immunity being unlikely anyway so if everyone who wants a jab has had one/two and the hospitals are unlikely to get overrun, then the roll outs kind of done it’s job already anyway
Ps Not sure if European countries numbers quoted are adults only or inc kids jabs ?
fernandopartridge
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Spain has great overall rates but their rates amongst the more vulnerable are not so good
Grendel
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Yeah they changed the measurement and many countries have pushed the jab across school age children
Personally I’d rather we get the 90% of adults double dosed then so boosters for the over 50’s
Grendel
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Italy also I believe have around 2 million over 65s with no vaccine
Sick Boy
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A nice bit of spin; not all EU countries are vaccinating over 12s.
Grendel
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Which of those above the U.K. haven’t?
Sick Boy
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It’s over 60s - i guess novaxers.
Sick Boy
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Most Spanish regions only starting vaccinating over 12s last week.
Evo1883
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To be fair going off my Facebook, its worrying how many under 35s are anti vaxxers ..
Sick Boy
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It’s inevitable the UK will do as well, IMO.
Grendel
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As FP says they are vaccinated non vulnerable people - last month the age group of around 60 - 65 has dire levels second dosed
Grendel
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I don’t see the point
Skybluefaz
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Footballers as well by the sounds of things. Where are they getting their advice from?
Sick Boy
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Herd immunity cannot be reached unless children over 12 given Covid vaccine, experts say
Experts criticise ‘unnecessary delay’ in expanding roll-out after decision to offer 16 and 17-year-olds jab
www.independent.co.uk
Grendel
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Herd immunity cannot be reached unless children over 12 given Covid vaccine, experts say
Experts criticise ‘unnecessary delay’ in expanding roll-out after decision to offer 16 and 17-year-olds jab
I still don’t see why you’d do it. It’s better to get all adults jabbed and then boosters - there’s no point in having 70% jabbed if 40% of venerable age groups haven’t
Sick Boy
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I presume to try and get some sort of control over it in schools? I think they started doing it in America before they started in Europe. Presumably getting something closer to herd immunity with the over 12s vaccinated also removes the need for boosters across more of the general population after 9 months of whatever it is.
Grendel
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You’ll need boosters anyway as the immunity will wear off from the vaccines - everyone will need boosters
Sick Boy
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Let’s hope not forever!
Evo1883
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The tracking device we've had implanted will never wear off though #billgatespopulationcontrol
Grendel
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Next few years I’d think especially for older population especially is travel is to get back to normal