Bright and Robins (63 Viewers)

[usskyblue]

Just bin him off.

It’s the usual attempts to shut down debate on here.

Top debating m8

 

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[Sick Boy]

Top debating m8

Says the guy banging on about an imaginary 'campaign'.

 

[usskyblue]

Says the guy banging on about an imaginary 'campaign'.

Witch hunt then ?

 

[Nick]

Evidence that he is having a negative effect here? If that's not the case why not trust Robins and give him a chance?

Does that mean you don't trust Robins because Bright isn't being given a chance then?

 

[Grendel]

Top debating m8

You do not want a debate and do not want it discussed for some odd reason

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

Where did he say that?

Not engaging in the debate then?

 

[Sick Boy]

Not engaging in the debate then?

The OP clearly understood the joke.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

We have an U23 game at QPR tomorrow
Be interesting to see if Bright features

From the same update Pask is at the Higgs now too. IMO he’s a more reliable option than Da Costa but Robins obviously doesn’t rate him

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Bright and Jones . If evere there were two opposites in character you have it right there

I think Robins has gambled on the much higher professionalism in the group getting Bright to up his own levels. Like a trouble maker in school being put in a high achieving group

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

From the same update Pask is at the Higgs now too. IMO he’s a more reliable option than Da Costa but Robins obviously doesn’t rate him

Think better days said may be as much that pask wants first team football and can’t get it here

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I think Robins has gambled on the much higher professionalism in the group getting Bright to up his own levels. Like a trouble maker in school being put in a high achieving group

Often works too

 

[Grendel]

Often works too

Does it?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Often works too

In schools yes it can, in football I don’t know many examples.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Think better days said may be as much that pask wants first team football and can’t get it here

Yes but I don’t think alienating players from the first team training ground and train with the kids is going to persuade them to move on quicker

 

[Ccfcisparks]

In schools yes it can, in football I don’t know many examples.

Strange because when they did that at my school it often pissed off the other students and the bad student was soon moved.

 

[better days]

From the same update Pask is at the Higgs now too. IMO he’s a more reliable option than Da Costa but Robins obviously doesn’t rate him

Really don't know what's happening with Pask
He's miles better than Dacosta
Edit I know he wanted game time so maybe he asked for a move and couldn't find a taker

 

[COV]

I think Robins has gambled on the much higher professionalism in the group getting Bright to up his own levels. Like a trouble maker in school being put in a high achieving group

An interesting thought... is Bright actually around the first team much though?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

An interesting thought... is Bright actually around the first team much though?

I haven’t seen him on any first team training photos for ages

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

Does that mean you don't trust Robins because Bright isn't being given a chance then?

Why would I think that?
As far as I can see Bright hasn't reached a level where he could be considered. I saw him play against Mansfield, Nuneaton and Northampton. In none of those games did he look any where near the level required to challenge for a place.
The point I am making is that some people seem to be actively hoping he doesn't make it. Why?
Surely we would all hope he gets to a level where he can challenge for a first team place and make a difference to the team?

I would say that against Mansfield ( yes it was only Mansfield and it was only a friendly) he produced a couple of moments of magic and had the away end on their feet in what otherwise, from a City point of view, was a fairly drab game.

If, and at the moment it appears to be a big if, he can do it in the Championship, why not give him the time to do it, particularly as it appears he is not having a negative affect around the team?

 

[clint van damme]

Evidence that he is having a negative effect here? If that's not the case why not trust Robins and give him a chance?

It's not about trusting Robins. He's on a tight budget and has to try and uncover talent on the cheap.
It's Bright I don't trust. If he messes up his own career then fine, I just don't want there to be any collateral damage.

 

[jordan210]

Wana know who I feel sorry for in all of this. Polar Logistics. That was a shite pick for sponsorship !

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Why would I think that?
As far as I can see Bright hasn't reached a level where he could be considered. I saw him play against Mansfield, Nuneaton and Northampton. In none of those games did he look any where near the level required to challenge for a place.
The point I am making is that some people seem to be actively hoping he doesn't make it. Why?
Surely we would all hope he gets to a level where he can challenge for a first team place and make a difference to the team?

I would say that against Mansfield ( yes it was only Mansfield and it was only a friendly) he produced a couple of moments of magic and had the away end on their feet in what otherwise, from a City point of view, was a fairly drab game.

If, and at the moment it appears to be a big if, he can do it in the Championship, why not give him the time to do it, particularly as it appears he is not having a negative affect around the team?

Don’t want Bright to fail, pissed off we have used part of our tight budget on a player who can’t be arsed to get up to standard

 

[COV]

It's not about trusting Robins. He's on a tight budget and has to try and uncover talent on the cheap.
It's Bright I don't trust. If he messes up his own career then fine, I just don't want there to be any collateral damage.

which is very understandable, but what kind of collateral damage- its not as if anything the guy has done has made a jot of difference so far, the spirit among the team is obviously, visibly excellent.

Just all seems a bit disproportionate thats all- people claiming that someone wanted to bin Robins to accommodate Bright etc, when they didn't say that at all

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

In schools yes it can, in football I don’t know many examples.

This and no idea in football

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Don’t want Bright to fail, pissed off we have used part of our tight budget on a player who can’t be arsed to get up to standard

Some work some dont

 

[clint van damme]

which is very understandable, but what kind of collateral damage- its not as if anything the guy has done has made a jot of difference so far, the spirit among the team is obviously, visibly excellent.

Just all seems a bit disproportionate thats all

But like I've said, one bad apple can change that, I've seen it happen. That doesn't mean it will in this case but if he's not going to even get a chance in the u23s why even risk having him around?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Some work some dont

Some work because they don’t have the talent. Bright just can’t be arsed.

 

[COV]

But like I've said, one bad apple can change that, I've seen it happen. That doesn't mean it will in this case but if he's not going to even get a chance in the u23s why even risk having him around?

without wishing to fall back on the old chestnut its impossible not to do so in this case- MR is closest to it and he obviously thinks its worth persevering with, and thats good enough for me.

If he could somehow get himself fit & mentally ready then come Dec/ Jan with potential injuries & suspensions mounting up, it would be brilliant to have someone like him to introduce.

To be honest there have been so many rumours about what he's been up to I have no idea whats true and what isn't. One thing I'm pretty sure of from what I've read & heard- if Robins got the first inkling that he was disrupting the team he wouldn't be allowed anywhere near of any of them

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Yes but I don’t think alienating players from the first team training ground and train with the kids is going to persuade them to move on quicker

Why not, the feeling of not being wanted is horrible. Especially when your professional playing career is only about 15 years on average why would you waste a year of that rotting in under 23s with no development.

 

[clint van damme]

without wishing to fall back on the old chestnut its impossible not to do so in this case- MR is closest to it and he obviously thinks its worth persevering with, and thats good enough for me.

If he could somehow get himself fit & mentally ready then come Dec/ Jan with potential injuries & suspensions mounting up, it would be brilliant to have someone like him to introduce.

To be honest there have been so many rumours about what he's been up to I have no idea whats true and what isn't. One thing I'm pretty sure of from what I've read & heard- if Robins got the first inkling that he was disrupting the team he wouldn't be allowed anywhere near of any of them

But he's not even getting in the u23s. How can a profeesional player let his fitness go that much?
Kanes not played first team for months but managed to last 90 minutes on Saturday.

If Bright actually manages to play some football at any level I might be a bit less wary of his motivation for being at the club.

As for the rumours, yes probably many are untrue.
But As keiron Dyer once said, half the stories about him were untrue, but people made them up because the other half weren't.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Why not, the feeling of not being wanted is horrible. Especially when your professional playing career is only about 15 years on average why would you waste a year of that rotting in under 23s with no development.

Well Jobello and Hilssner are still here despite having that treatment

 

[Londonccfcfan]

But he's not even getting in the u23s. How can a profeesional player let his fitness go that much?
Kanes not played first team for months but managed to last 90 minutes on Saturday.

If Bright actually manages to play some football at any level I might be a bit less wary of his motivation for being at the club.

As for the rumours, yes probably many are untrue.
But As keiron Dyer once said, half the stories about him were untrue, but people made them up because the other half weren't.

If he doesnt make it here then as far as im concerned his proffesional career at any decent level top 4 tiers is finished.

Its last chance saloon.

 

[COV]

But he's not even getting in the u23s. How can a profeesional player let his fitness go that much?
Kanes not played first team for months but managed to last 90 minutes on Saturday.

If Bright actually manages to play some football at any level I might be a bit less wary of his motivation for being at the club.

As for the rumours, yes probably many are untrue.
But As keiron Dyer once said, half the stories about him were untrue, but people made them up because the other half weren't.

Motivation is the bottom line- if it was me I'd be looking at the table and thinking "I could potentially be a premiership player next year", not sure what more incentive there is really.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Motivation is the bottom line- if it was me I'd be looking at the table and thinking "I could potentially be a premiership player next year", not sure what more incentive there is really.

Money for Bright.

 

[SleepyGinger]

If he can’t look at what we’re doing at the moment and do everything in his power to get into this team and be part of this then I don’t think he ever will.