Wasps downward spiral... (37 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Work with 2 Wasps

At the Bee Bee C ?

 

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[Kneeza]

Their attendances have plummeted, not sure what a match day break even would be...

Wouldn't want the fuckers at the Butts. Shithouses.

 

[Kneeza]

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Playing the Last Post?
Apt, at least.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

What’s happened to Earlsdon after his embarrassing behaviour on this thread? Taking time out?

I can see you are trying to double down after being caught lying.

People can make their own minds up, the facts are the facts. Considering the bad taste that cov fans going to watch wasps leaves in the mouth, it did surprise me how a few people seemed to be ok with it if it was a certain person.

Then again, the people that got on my case about it were generally the ones that don't like me on this forum and would argue water wasn't wet if they had to anyway, so that says a lot in itself.

It isn't a complete coincidence that our attendances have gone up and theirs have gone down around the same time. There have been crossover fans, some of them are probably on this thread.

 

[Warthog]

I can see you are trying to double down after being caught lying.

People can make their own minds up, the facts are the facts. Considering the bad taste that cov fans going to watch wasps leaves in the mouth, it did surprise me how a few people seemed to be ok with it if it was a certain person.

Then again, the people that got on my case about it were generally the ones that don't like me on this forum and would argue water wasn't wet if they had to anyway, so that says a lot in itself.

It isn't a complete coincidence that our attendances have gone up and theirs have gone down around the same time. There have been crossover fans, some of them are probably on this thread.

How do you know OSB went to the game? If he did then you’re right no one should be okay with it

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Alright, it's a long time ago and my memory was hazy, but as this is still going on I thought I'd check out, well... the facts.

There seemed to be 1 person from PSB there Saturday and no one I spoke to went in to the wasps game.

Nobody I spoke to was going in to the game.

Didn’t speak to one person attending the Wasps game other than wasps fans who stopped to speak.

It does say some even attended the Wasps match however. That's not true, as far as I was aware?

Pretty sure of the 15-ish I spoke to, none went in.

Yep, I am all but certain no-one from the protest went to the Wasps game.

I did speak to OSB in that 15, why would I disbelieve it?

Now, as for the tone of the protest, this was the initial call to arms. I draw attention to

Firstly, I don't care if you think SISU are to blame. I don't care if you think CCC, Wasps, or my cat are to blame.

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I don't care who you are, what your viewpoint is.

The whole point was to unify about the opposition to CCFC leaving the Ricoh - not to cast aspersions about preferences of who to think is to blame - we can do that well enough on here, but when it comes to numbers at a protest... that's not the way to go.

Now... I can't *guarantee* all people who attended didn't go in, but the number of independent witnesses say nobody did. Don't trust me? How about sheperdo01? Don't trust OSB? How about Otis?

The other fact is that turnout was pitiful, it had no effect because there were sod all people there... and yet stones are cast from *this* angle? To what purpose? What does it serve? Why has it become about this?

 

[pusbccfc]

The Mobo awards is a decent pull and good for the city.

It's criminal that the exhibition hall doesn't host more musical events. It holds 12k which puts it bigger than the Liverpool and Newcastle arenas, and a similar size to Wembley Arena.

It must have had no more than 10 gigs there since it's opened?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Alright, it's a long time ago and my memory was hazy, but as this is still going on I thought I'd check out, well... the facts.













I did speak to OSB in that 15, why would I disbelieve it?

Now, as for the tone of the protest, this was the initial call to arms. I draw attention to



The whole point was to unify about the opposition to CCFC leaving the Ricoh - not to cast aspersions about preferences of who to think is to blame - we can do that well enough on here, but when it comes to numbers at a protest... that's not the way to go.

Now... I can't *guarantee* all people who attended didn't go in, but the number of independent witnesses say nobody did. Don't trust me? How about sheperdo01? Don't trust OSB? How about Otis?

The other fact is that turnout was pitiful, it had no effect because there were sod all people there... and yet stones are cast from *this* angle? To what purpose? What does it serve? Why has it become about this?

You have a real problem with me on here, especially on the covid thread where you have continuously behaved like a child. Your attempts to try and get one over are just making you look silly with this huge list of posts, none of which actually have anything within them. Unless you all went home together, you simply do not have an argument because no one knows what anyone got up to afterwards for absolute certainty. Unless that is, that someone you know personally knows that person and what they get up to.

I can say for absolute fact that he went in, and has been to many wasps games.

 

[COV]

You have a real problem with me on here, especially on the covid thread where you have continuously behaved like a child. Your attempts to try and get one over are just making you look silly with this huge list of posts, none of which actually have anything within them. Unless you all went home together, you simply do not have an argument because no one knows what anyone got up to afterwards for absolute certainty. Unless that is, that someone you know personally knows that person and what they get up to.

I can say for absolute fact that he went in, and has been to many wasps games.

I don't give a shit who went to what & why they went there- but how can you say people simply have no argument because they are basing their views on hearsay & didn't go home with him, then state you have the absolute facts... based on hearsay, and you didn't go home with him?

And before you start the inevitable stuff about how everyone's got it in for you & are out to get you etc- I don't care if this guy went to Wasps years ago, this mad obsession with him is a little weird

 

[Deleted member 5849]

You have a real problem with me on here

I have not made this personal, if you look. Politely, you appear to think people are going after you when they are not. I consider this very strange behaviour.

You're right, I do have a problem with you on the Covid thread, but I will not bring that over here as it digresses from the issue. I have deliberately not made this personal, butyou appear determined to make it so,

Your attempts to try and get one over are just making you look silly with this huge list of posts

I'm not trying to get one up, I'm presenting the evidence. Frankly, I don't care because, as mentioned, that was not the point of said protest, something you appear to be missing spectacularly. I am not so insecure I need to get one up on anybody, my life is more fulfilled, quite frankly, than telling my wife that hey, I made an anonymous pseudonym look a fool among other anonymous pseudonyms, that is neither big not clever.

I can only assume you are OSB's wife, as you say that a huge list of posts doesn't prove anything, but you ask us to take your word for something - something that is irrelevant anyway, in the context of where you put it.

 

[duffer]

A bit like football, a good rule here is to play the ball and not the man. If OSB has said something in his analyses that you disagree with, ESB, then just challenge him on the facts. There's no reason for this to get personal...

 

[Grendel]

You have a real problem with me on here, especially on the covid thread where you have continuously behaved like a child. Your attempts to try and get one over are just making you look silly with this huge list of posts, none of which actually have anything within them. Unless you all went home together, you simply do not have an argument because no one knows what anyone got up to afterwards for absolute certainty. Unless that is, that someone you know personally knows that person and what they get up to.

I can say for absolute fact that he went in, and has been to many wasps games.

I don’t personally think it’s him that’s looking silly - you keep saying facts are facts but are relying yourself on the word of a third party who I assume did not go to the actual protest

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I don’t personally think it’s him that’s looking silly

First time for everything, I suppose

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Stop bickering guys - it's unbecoming. Take a dignified time out, and let it lie.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I don’t personally think it’s him that’s looking silly - you keep saying facts are facts but are relying yourself on the word of a third party who I assume did not go to the actual protest

Did you go home with OSB or not? Because if you didn´t (I know you didn´t) you have absolutely no leg to stand on.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Did you go home with OSB or not? Because if you didn´t (I know you didn´t) you have absolutely no leg to stand on.

Did your contact?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

A bit like football, a good rule here is to play the ball and not the man. If OSB has said something in his analyses that you disagree with, ESB, then just challenge him on the facts. There's no reason for this to get personal...

My issue is with CCFC fans going to Wasps games. It has always really hit a nerve with me. It is even worse when people do it and lie about it, then others cover up for them without actually knowing anything.

I have the upmost respect for his financial insight into the CCFC accounts generally.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Did your contact?

Yes, and he met him in the ground to watch the game as well.

 

[COV]

My issue is with CCFC fans going to Wasps games. It has always really hit a nerve with me. It is even worse when people do it and lie about it, then others cover up for them without actually knowing anything.

I have the upmost respect for his financial insight into the CCFC accounts generally.

did he stop going to CCFC matches at this time?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

If only more than me and CVD had gone for a pint after - didn't realise I'd have to clock people in and out two years later!

 

[COV]

If only more than me and CVD had gone for a pint after - didn't realise I'd have to clock people in and out two years later!

But did you go home with CVD?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

But did you go home with CVD?

It was just the one pint!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes, and he met him in the ground to watch the game as well.

Did you denounce him as a traitor as well? Even if this is true, it just comes over as hounding someone for something which really isn’t crime of the century. Just let it go

 

[COV]

I never realised that we had spies out & about at Wasps matches

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I never realised that we had spies out & about at Wasps matches

Wish they'd joined in the sodding protest!

 

[Skybluefaz]

It was just the one pint!

You sure that was Clint? Not usually a one pint kind of guy.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

You sure that was Clint? Not usually a pint kind of guy.

I suspect he thought me an arse, so escaped as soon as he could

 

[chiefdave]

The Mobo awards is a decent pull and good for the city.

It's criminal that the exhibition hall doesn't host more musical events. It holds 12k which puts it bigger than the Liverpool and Newcastle arenas, and a similar size to Wembley Arena.

It must have had no more than 10 gigs there since it's opened?

So we get restrictions on crowd numbers, fences, ridiculous searches etc while they're booking an awards ceremony that has been marred on multiple occasions in the past by violence.

 

[COV]

You sure that was Clint? Not usually a pint kind of guy.

Its impossible to say because nobody went home with him.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Its impossible to say because nobody went home with him.

It was, shall we say, a somewhat deflating end to a pretty feeble protest. 21 of us standing around scratching our bollocks, as hordes of Wasps fans filed past us, before we all melted into the shadows all feeling that was an hour of our lives we wouldn't get back, so it'd probably take the wind out of the most dedicated drinker's sails - especially when I was the only one who agreed to a pint There was more drinking going on at Mark Labovitch's girly gossping sessions!

Still, I got to prove that Grendel was real, so it wasn't all a waste of time

 

[COV]

It was, shall we say, a somewhat deflating end to a pretty feeble protest. 21 of us standing around scratching our bollocks, as hordes of Wasps fans filed past us, before we all melted into the shadows all feeling that was an hour of our lives we wouldn't get back, so it'd probably take the wind out of the most dedicated drinker's sails - especially when I was the only one who agreed to a pint There was more drinking going on at Mark Labovitch's girly gossping sessions!

Still, I got to prove that Grendel was real, so it wasn't all a waste of time

Just for my own files, who did he go home with?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Just for my own files, who did he go home with?

Moz from the Trust

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Did you denounce him as a traitor as well? Even if this is true, it just comes over as hounding someone for something which really isn’t crime of the century. Just let it go

So we have gone from a mock court situation and several pages of people refusing to accept it, to ´not the crime of the century, just let it go.´

I think that just about says it all in regards to some people´s morals regarding Wasps. Not that this was ever really in question to anyone other than the 5 or 6 on this thread who are now joking about going home with each other.

Anyway enough, I´ve made my point to death. You can have your thread back now.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So we have gone from a mock court situation and several pages of people refusing to accept it, to ´not the crime of the century, just let it go.´

I think that just about says it all in regards to some people´s morals regarding Wasps. Not that this was ever really in question to anyone other than the 5 or 6 on this thread who are now joking about going home with each other.

Anyway enough, I´ve made my point to death. You can have your thread back now.

It isn’t my thread and I’ve been consistent in finding this hounding of OSB a bit strange. ‘Let it go’ if it happened is what I said.

Because really, besides you, who cares?

 

[duffer]

So we have gone from a mock court situation and several pages of people refusing to accept it, to ´not the crime of the century, just let it go.´

I think that just about says it all in regards to some people´s morals regarding Wasps. Not that this was ever really in question to anyone other than the 5 or 6 on this thread who are now joking about going home with each other.

Anyway enough, I´ve made my point to death. You can have your thread back now.

Just on the morals of going to Wasps:

I've got a mate or two who go occasionally. I don't fall out with them, I just explain to them why I think Wasps shouldn't be here.

They're still mates though, I don't consider them immoral, or at least any more immoral than they already were.

The truth of it is though, that I've yet to meet a Wasps fan from this part of the world who supports the team with the kind of passion that CCFC or CRFC fans take as given.

Which, I think, is another reason why they're struggling - they haven't established a genuine fanbase here, just some people who'll go every now and then when it suits them. It's an excuse for a couple of beers, or to get the kids out of the house for a bit mostly, there's no genuine investment in the team.