Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (148 Viewers)

[robbiekeane]

So if it’s 70% less likely to result in hospital admissions, 100k daily cases is as impactful as 30k daily cases in one of the OG variants?

crack on

 

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[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Booster protection falls away after 10 weeks

Underwhelming...

 

[Evo1883]

Underwhelming...

Extremely

 

[covmark]

120,000 cases; what a shit show.
The freedom day bollocks should never have happened.

You're obsessed with freedom day mate. That was back in June. Has nowt to do with 120000 cases on 23rd December.

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[Sick Boy]

You're obsessed with freedom day mate. That was back in June. Has nowt to do with 120000 cases on 23rd December.

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Yeah, a complete roll back of restrictions during an ongoing global pandemic is going to have zero impact.

 

[Nick]

Booster protection falls away after 10 weeks

Quarterly jabs?

 

[Evo1883]

Quarterly jabs?

Can't imagine people will be too pleased to take that up tbh

 

[covmark]

Yeah, a complete roll back of restrictions during an ongoing global pandemic is going to have zero impact.

That was 6 months ago mate.

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[chiefdave]

Booster protection falls away after 10 weeks

Pfizer are working on a vaccine targeting the variant which they say will be ready in March. Not sure if ready means ready to start production or ready to go into arms. Lets hope that provides longer protection.

 

[Nick]

Pfizer are working on a vaccine targeting the variant which they say will be ready in March. Not sure if ready means ready to start production or ready to go into arms. Lets hope that provides longer protection.

Course it will.

If omicron carries on this way then hopefully it's been and gone by then.

 

[Evo1883]

Pfizer are working on a vaccine targeting the variant which they say will be ready in March. Not sure if ready means ready to start production or ready to go into arms. Lets hope that provides longer protection.

Going to go down like a lead balloon with the population mate isn't it ?

 

[Nick]

If the booster takes a couple of weeks to kick in. Does that mean 8 weeks?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Critical thinking has gone out the window all of a sudden, eh? Here's the full quote from the BBC...

Two doses of a vaccine were shown to offer limited protection against catching Omicron, which was then restored with a booster dose.
However, the report says this protection drops by between 15% and 25% after 10 weeks. This is still better than having no booster dose and the protection against severe disease or death is likely to be even greater.

While vaccine protection against severe disease from Omicron looks likely to be far more robust, there is uncertainty about what will happen when the variant reaches older age groups. Most of those catching it and going into hospital were under the age of 40.

So, let's disentangle that. Protection against catching it (in entirety!) drops, but does not disappear. That happened with initial vaccines of course, as we knew from Israel. Moreover, protection against severe disease and death more robust.

The caveat is wait and see how Omicron affects older people.

 

[Nick]

"likely" is the word. How many times have we heard that?

How long do we wait to see if older people get omicron?

 

[CCFCSteve]

120,000 cases; what a shit show.
The freedom day bollocks should never have happened.

Come on Sick boy, that’s nonsense. These case numbers are driven by a totally new far more transmissible variant. France didn’t have ‘freedom day’ yet managed 84k with probably less tests than us yesterday. Germany has been recording 400-500 deaths a day recently and that’s before an anticipated fifth omicron wave.

Also, who’s to say that the people who got natural immunity from catching Covid over summer and autumn when case numbers remained high aren’t helping to reduce/minimise hospitalisations now when hospitals are naturally far more stretched at this time of year ?!

Not sure any judgements can be made until this winter plays out and we hopefully all get through this shitstorm but I for one am glad we had some normality for a few months over the summer before restrictions were re-imposed*

*ive always said I’d have kept mandatory face masks on public transport though

 

[Nick]

120,000 cases; what a shit show.
The freedom day bollocks should never have happened.

Isn't that just focusing on case numbers though?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Come on Sick boy, that’s nonsense. These case numbers are driven by a totally new far more transmissible variant. France didn’t have ‘freedom day’ yet managed 84k with probably less tests than us yesterday. Germany has been recording 400-500 deaths a day recently and that’s before an anticipated fifth omicron wave.

Also, who’s to say that the people who got natural immunity from catching Covid over summer and autumn when case numbers remained high aren’t helping to reduce/minimise hospitalisations now when hospitals are naturally far more stretched at this time of year ?!

Not sure any judgements can be made until this winter plays out and we hopefully all get through this shitstorm but I for one am glad we had some normality for a few months over the summer before restrictions were re-imposed*

*ive always said I’d have kept mandatory face masks on public transport though

Yeah, in absolute terms it's nonsense, you could certainly argue the rhetoric around it makes it far harder to row back if needs be, however... and that can potentially have a consequence.

 

[wingy]

Well the one that replicates in two day's is at currently 16k of circa 120 k cases at least I think that's it currently ,so how has Delta which was ultimately under control relatively ballooned to at least double it's level of a month ago?

 

[CCFCSteve]

Yeah, in absolute terms it's nonsense, you could certainly argue the rhetoric around it makes it far harder to row back if needs be, however... and that can potentially have a consequence.

Yeah, I think people did take a little bit of time to get back into mask wearing routines but to be fair as a Nation I think we have been pretty good....saying that i don’t have to use public transport in peak times etc so might be wrong

 

[Nick]

Well the one that replicates in two day's is at currently 16k of circa 120 k cases at least I think that's it currently ,so how has Delta which was ultimately under control relatively ballooned to at least double it's level of a month ago?

What's the accuracy on the "variant" like now? Are they testing everybody to see which variant or just some?

 

[Sick Boy]

Yeah, I think people did take a little bit of time to get back into mask wearing routines but to be fair as a Nation I think we have been pretty good....saying that i don’t have to use public transport in peak times etc so might be wrong

Which other countries have you travelled to during the pandemic?

 

[wingy]

What's the accuracy on the "variant" like now? Are they testing everybody to see which variant or just some?

That's what is currently on the BBC news channel strapline

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Appreciate that im good but 999/111 wont do me any good i am not in the uk, bit definitely will keep an eye out im on a heart monitor for 48 hours now.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Pfizer are working on a vaccine targeting the variant which they say will be ready in March. Not sure if ready means ready to start production or ready to go into arms. Lets hope that provides longer protection.

Wonder if by the time it's available and been distributed whether we'll have another variant starting to take over?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Yeah, a complete roll back of restrictions during an ongoing global pandemic is going to have zero impact.

It doesn't have any real relationship to what's happening now tbf

 

[fernandopartridge]

Booster protection falls away after 10 weeks

Where have you seen that?

 

[covmark]

Where have you seen that?

Bbc mate, 15-25% drop in effectiveness. Still robust against severe illness.

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[fernandopartridge]

Going to go down like a lead balloon with the population mate isn't it ?

What that they're first in the queue again for another dose of a vaccine that half the world hasn't had one of? People are entitled wankers if you ask me

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Bbc mate, 15-25% drop in effectiveness. Still robust against severe illness.

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And that's still a damned fine chance of not catching it at all.

 

[Nick]

Wonder if by the time it's available and been distributed whether we'll have another variant starting to take over?

If it's march it's going to be sneezing when going by fields as a symptom.

Booster will fix that until about June.

Pfizer won't want this to end. Guess they have settlements to pay.

 

[covmark]

Pfizer won't want this to end. Guess they have settlements to pay.

You think all this is manufactured to make Pfizer a few quid?
Strange post.

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[Nick]

You think all this is manufactured to make Pfizer a few quid?
Strange post.

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I'm saying they will rinse it for everything they can, while they can.

Not nearly as strange as you suggesting things that haven't been said.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Not wanting to burst any balloons but while the Omicron might be less severe it still causes a significant impact, 50% increase in hospitalisations in 3 weeks isn't to be sniffed at

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If it's march it's going to be sneezing when going by fields as a symptom.

Booster will fix that until about June.

Pfizer won't want this to end. Guess they have settlements to pay.

Almost like the UK isn't the only country with Omicron

 

[fernandopartridge]

I'm saying they will rinse it for everything they can, while they can.

Not nearly as strange as you suggesting things that haven't been said.

Pfizer aren't the ones identifying the new variants.