Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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'perfectly legal gathering' now. You really are making sure you're going for the Tory bingo full-house aren't you.
Good job for you the police don't investigate law breaking that happened in the past...
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'perfectly legal gathering' now. You really are making sure you're going for the Tory bingo full-house aren't you.
Good job for you the police don't investigate law breaking that happened in the past...
Grendel
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Well that’s also ridiculous as you have to look at context. If it was phrased correctly it’s not really libellous - the only person who stepped over the line was cakey SDP man
Grendel
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The story has been on the media circuit for years. It was a thread on here once.
Terry Gibson's perm
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Not what a lawyer said today he has challenged Johnson to say it out of parliament.
doesn’t matter how is phrased it was a lie
shmmeee
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Watson’s didn’t either really. And wasn’t known to be untrue at the time.
But if we’re calling equivalence I look forward to Johnson’s apology and subsequent disappearance as an MP.
Grendel
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Well was Sir Keir Starmer head of the CPS when it was decided not to prosecute Saville - yes he was
People defend anything if they back tbe cause. The denials that Corbyn and McDonnell were active supoorters of the Irish Republican Army being a case on point
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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So finding out the rules that had been put in place, that meant people had to let loved ones live and die alone, never getting the chance to say goodbye or console their families, were being broken on an almost daily basis by the Prime Minister and his cronies just so they could have a drink after work, isn't going to play on their minds for the rest of their lives?
shmmeee
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Starmer had nothing to do with the decision. It’s like saying Johnson failed to prosecute Saville. Or you did.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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How did he step over the line? He called him a liar. He's been proven to be a liar.
Grendel
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I know he didn’t have anything to do with the decision
Grendel
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That’s a breach of parliamentary rules
skybluetony176
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So are you suggesting that everyone who has been fined for breaking lockdown rules should be compensated?
You should also try saying that to someone who has loved ones that died during lockdown regardless of what and then obeyed the rules. You’re actually a bit of c**t for even contemplating let alone going through with trivialising this. What an awful excuse you are for a human being.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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And do you not think that's a ridiculous state of affairs? That someone in the house can make any suggestion they like about anyone else and that's fine under 'parliamentary privilege', but to call a member of that house a liar isn't fine, even when it has been demonstrably proven many times that's exactly what he is?
How can you hold someone corrupt to account if you can't call them out for it in the very place you need to be able to?
The laws of that house are an ass, based in tradition that has absolutely no place in a functioning democracy. it should be held to the same standards as anywhere outside the chamber.
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Sick Boy
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The stuff about Starmer and Saville really is the dregs of the barrel and sums up Johnson perfectly.
skybluetony176
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He only broke them in a limited and specific way though so…
Plus no one told him that it was against the rules to be truthful so…
Plus it didn’t really impact anyone so…
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Ian1779
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There was something to this end on LBC this morning…. The minutiae gets lost in all the noise and they just hear those two words.
Ian1779
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Of course it is - there is no depth to the lies the people in power will tell to maintain it.
skybluetony176
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Been tuning in and out of LBC all day and the thing I was struck by was the number of callers who consider themselves traditional Tories having voted Tory for decades (some even party members) saying that they’re essentially Tories without a party and most of them also saying that they didn’t vote in the 2019 GE as they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Boris or the party he’s turned the Tories into. Never really thought of that before.
shmmeee
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That’s what happens when you move a broad church party off to the fringes.
Brighton Sky Blue
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So he’s allowed to do that while Blackford is chucked out for stating Johnson lied
clint van damme
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Brighton Sky Blue
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No different to Republicans put off by Trump, they exist but as a group I imagine Tory voters are generally more loyal to the party or candidate.
Otis
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I wish someone would up their game, not necessarily Labour. Just any credible alternative.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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yeah, I think being Conservative in both name and nature, holding their nose and ticking the same box as always is more preferable to them than risking an alternative getting in.
Meanwhile the left will argue over the minutiae of what the parties want to do and end up with their worst possible outcome of a Tory government as a result.
skybluetony176
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David O'Day
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No one cares about parties mate
clint van damme
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See the levelling ups going well.
