Ian1779
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She did but it went through to a second round, hence the resignation.
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stupot07
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So in which case, he should do the honorable things and take one for the team and resign.
The missed call to Putin was probably a blessing, we can all remember what happened when he was Foreign Secretary.
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skybluetony176
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The excellent Dan Hodges
Sky Blue Pete
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Wanker as is Raab and Boris
clint van damme
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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3%! Three fucking percent!
But of course they're the wealth creators don't you know* So it's only fair they're cut some slack while your NI on your wages that are a fraction of a percent on what they earn had to go up instead - you don't create as much money.
Expect a massive deregulation of the industry soon (it's one of the main reason's the likes of JRM and the ERG voted for Brexit) and then the huge surprise when about 8 years later there's a massive crash and recession like there always is.
This kind of stuff is A level economics. It's been shown to not work yet they continue to peddle the same old crap.
*the fact the wealth created is solely for themselves is neither here nor there.
skybluetony176
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Levelling up clearly means stitching up the plebs. Basically the general public are now subsidising the profits of banks and lining the pockets of their shareholders.
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clint van damme
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Scandalous. Above all also, how can firms who are contracted to make PPE in pandemic furlough staff during said pandemic?
www.theguardian.com
Firms handed £1.3bn in Covid contracts claimed £1m in furlough grants
Dozen UK companies given VIP fast-track contracts to supply PPE to NHS paid idled staff at taxpayers’ expense
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Scandalous. Above all also, how can firms who are contracted to make PPE in pandemic furlough staff during said pandemic?
Firms handed £1.3bn in Covid contracts claimed £1m in furlough grants
Dozen UK companies given VIP fast-track contracts to supply PPE to NHS paid idled staff at taxpayers’ expense
But don't forget Bazza from the council estate wrongly claimed £5k of benefits and those asylum seekers were given a rental house that has to be paid for. Grrr... Dishonest people stealing YOUR hard earned money!
I agree. Too many unforced errors and appalling lack of judgement. The initial parties alone may not have caused Johnson the issues they have on a personal level, however, the compulsive and continued lying and inability to hold hands up and apologise at the start, have led to the issue snowballing. He’s then lied to parliament which is a resigning matter. Shambolic
Also agree that the missed Putin call probably makes little difference but the point was that Johnson and the government spending all their time firefighting (internal party turmoil) due to the above is not a good for the country
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As a fan of the classics, Johnson must surely be aware that his premiership is along the lines of something Euripides could come up with. Fueled by personal ambition and vanity, he gets the job but his curse will be to be remembered as a dishonest fool, a bumbling self-centred incompetent.
chiefdave
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With superb timing on the day Shell announced profits of £13bn for the fourth quarter of last year alone and a plan to pay £6bn to shareholders in a share buy back Sunak has raised the energy price cap 54%, an extra £693 per year for people to find. Struggling families shouldn't worry though as the government will lend you £200 towards it.
This hot on the heels of a National Insurance raise and a reduction on the tax rate for bankers. "We're all in it together".
This hot on the heels of a National Insurance raise and a reduction on the tax rate for bankers. "We're all in it together".
Sky Blue Pete
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Always the same eh
Grendel
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The whole of Europe has had huge escalations in fuel prices. It’s not a uk only issue
Frostie
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Absolutely. Difference being most other governments did something meaningful about it to soften the blow.
fernandopartridge
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I don't think all of Europe protects corporate profits at the expense of billpayers like we do here.
Grendel
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did they?
German households feel the heat from rising power and gas bills
Some 4.2 million German households will see their electricity bills rise by an average 63.7% this year and 3.6 million stand to pay 62.3% higher gas bills as suppliers pass on record wholesale rates, data showed on Tuesday.
skybluetony176
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And they’ve cut taxes to working people not raised them as a result. They’re also in the scheme that your boyfriend unnecessarily pulled out off because brexit means brexit so they still buy gas better than us and thus are facing a lower escalation than we are.
I suspect if you are half as clever as you think you are you would have realised what a stupid comparison you just made and wouldn’t have said it in the first place.
Grendel
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I do agree that we should scrap VAT and the green levy on fuel bills to balance it out as much as possible but in the end this will be a reality for many other aspects of our lives. I think I read some countries in Europe - Denmark being the worst - have had even higher increases - we have not invested sufficiently in nuclear power to mitigate the need for gas fired electricity
skybluetony176
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Spain has halved VAT on energy bills and used an extraordinary profit tax from energy companies to cap prices to consumers.
We’ve got an over 10% NI rise, a loan of our own money, no cut to VAT on energy bills and continued tax cuts to energy companies while they’re paying record dividends.
Stitching up not levelling up.
skybluetony176
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Love to see that link. Denmark is 80% renewable as they made a serious attempt to stop being reliable on fossil fuels after the Suez crisis. We’re about 43% reliant on renewables so are infinitely harder hit. I suspect that if Denmark has been hit hardest in the EU they’re undoubtedly still better off than us.
skybluetony176
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But energy bills in Germany are about 25% lower historically than the UK so starting from a lower base, average wages in Germany are higher in Germany than the UK, the general cost of living is cheaper in Germany than the UK and expendable income is generally higher in Germany than the UK.did they?
German households feel the heat from rising power and gas bills
Some 4.2 million German households will see their electricity bills rise by an average 63.7% this year and 3.6 million stand to pay 62.3% higher gas bills as suppliers pass on record wholesale rates, data showed on Tuesday.www.reuters.com
Yet again you’re not making the point that you think you’re making.
chiefdave
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This seems a decent summary of what other European countries are doing. Although I'm not sure 'would you rather live in Germany' is much comfort to a pensioner who can't afford to heat their home.
www.theguardian.com
As UK households feel pressure, how are other European countries tackling energy crisis?
Many European countries are a step ahead of the British government, which has yet to announce plans to help homes facing annual bills of almost £2,000
David O'Day
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So the big plan is just buy now pay later?
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Yeah, my 1.1% pay rise and hours cut is going to go well, then.
fernandopartridge
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The problem is that we've left (and that's the UK and a lot Europe aided by the pro market EU) essential infrastructure at the whim of the market. The type and level of investment needed in nuclear can only be delivered by the public sector. Investors want returns too quickly which ultimately means that the consumer and / or public sector foots the bill anyway.
I remember doing a contract 10 or more years or so ago in an old job, the idea was paying training providers for upskilling people to work in the construction of Hinkley Point C which was one of the 8 planned nuclear power stations which was supposed to be built by EDF. It only started construction in 2018 after many issues all essentially because of the use of the private sector (e.g. State Aid investigations, issues around raising finance on the money markets etc).
As for VAT, it's a farcical tax that needs a complete re-think.
skybluetony176
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So Rishi Sunak has rejected a windfall tax on energy companies because he’s worried it might deter investors. I thought he worked for the taxpayers?
And the usual mentalist on the Tory back benches are now accusing Rishi Sunak of being a socialist. Fucking hell.
And the usual mentalist on the Tory back benches are now accusing Rishi Sunak of being a socialist. Fucking hell.
shmmeee
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Not seen mentioned the fact that the Tories gutted home insulation support leaving us with some of the worst housing stock for energy efficiency in Europe. The idea the answer to this is to cut that more would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad.
By all means switch to direct government investment instead, but something needs to be done.
By all means switch to direct government investment instead, but something needs to be done.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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We shouldn't be investing in nuclear (as it is) at all. It's a massive, massive problem down the line with the fuel waste and the effects of a potential disaster.
But, hey, that won't be in your lifetime, so who cares, right...?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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shmmeee
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Disagree here. The chances of disaster with modern reactors is low. And yeah it’s kicking the can with the waste problem, but the only way out of this is to kick the can really.