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[skybluetony176]

Finally some good news. Traders are betting on interest rates hitting 1.5% by the end of the year.

Cost-of-living crisis: Bank warns of biggest squeeze on family finances for 30 years

British families are facing the biggest squeeze on living standards for 30 years as surging prices and tax rises take their toll.

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

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[Grendel]

We shouldn't be investing in nuclear (as it is) at all. It's a massive, massive problem down the line with the fuel waste and the effects of a potential disaster.

But, hey, that won't be in your lifetime, so who cares, right...?

Rubbish - you've been watching too much Sky Atlantic

 

[Grendel]

My bills are going up to £420 a month I think I might now be officially in fuel poverty

 

[David O'Day]

 

[fernandopartridge]

Rubbish - you've been watching too much Sky Atlantic

And even if you were, the cause of the Chernobyl disaster wasn't something inherently wrong with nuclear, it was a number of avoidable factors. Quite a few old the Soviet era reactors are still going today.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Its all good news today.

The good news is that this is what will really result in the end of this Government.

But unfortunately people will have to suffer first.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I do agree that we should scrap VAT and the green levy on fuel bills to balance it out as much as possible but in the end this will be a reality for many other aspects of our lives. I think I read some countries in Europe - Denmark being the worst - have had even higher increases - we have not invested sufficiently in nuclear power to mitigate the need for gas fired electricity

So we just go from one crisis to another. Tackle the energy crisis by adding to the climate crisis. So characteristic of this Government. No foresight.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Disagree here. The chances of disaster with modern reactors is low. And yeah it’s kicking the can with the waste problem, but the only way out of this is to kick the can really.

Of course the chances are low, but it's a cumulative probability. It only has to happen once an a large area is fucked for generations. And you know full well what we're like with upkeep costs on infrastructure in this country. Fuck that, let's give a massive wedge to the shareholders instead. The when it becomes a massive problem we'll just let it be nationalised and let the public purse pay for it.

Fact is the money we've spunked on nuclear and keeping gas/coal going over the years would have been sufficient to have had a viable renewable energy network in place by now. So we wouldn't be talking about needing to scrap green levies, or wholesale gas prices, or being bent over by the oil cartels and having to ignore all sorts of human rights abuses because it'd all be irrelevant and we'd have a much healthier environment to live in to boot. Those that are complaining about how the green levy is making energy unaffordable are making it that way because they refuse to give up antiquated energy sources out of financial self-interest.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

My bills are going up to £420 a month I think I might now be officially in fuel poverty

Is your next stupid attempt to goad someone into a wager going to be the loser has to pay the others gas bill?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Finally some good news. Traders are betting on interest rates hitting 1.5% by the end of the year.

Cost-of-living crisis: Bank warns of biggest squeeze on family finances for 30 years

British families are facing the biggest squeeze on living standards for 30 years as surging prices and tax rises take their toll.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Let's be honest - this is the reason the world is fucked and will continue to be until we get rid of the obsession with economics and financial trading.

If you can make money by being able to bet on something getting worse then it shouldn't be allowed, cos it gives you an incentive to try to make that worse thing happen. I can't take out insurance on a random house/car because of it, so why the fuck can people do it when the consequences will be felt by millions.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

The good news is that this is what will really result in the end of this Government.

But unfortunately people will have to suffer first.

Doesn't matter. Still be another Tory one after. Same bunch of clowns, just a different ringmaster

 

[Grendel]

So we just go from one crisis to another. Tackle the energy crisis by adding to the climate crisis. So characteristic of this Government. No foresight.

So the rest of Europe are dealing with it how?

 

[Grendel]

Let's be honest - this is the reason the world is fucked and will continue to be until we get rid of the obsession with economics and financial trading.

If you can make money by being able to bet on something getting worse then it shouldn't be allowed, cos it gives you an incentive to try to make that worse thing happen. I can't take out insurance on a random house/car because of it, so why the fuck can people do it when the consequences will be felt by millions.

You really need to go and get some therapy

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Doesn't matter. Still be another Tory one after. Same bunch of clowns, just a different ringmaster

No I mean the downfall of the Tories not just the current PM. If Sunak takes over the half price pizza two years ago isn't going to be enough in the face of this. If it's Truss..... well what can I say?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

You really need to go and get some therapy

Why? I'm not wrong am I.

Would you be happy if someone just randomly took out an insurance policy of your house/car/life? Or would you be extremely suspicious about what that person might do?

 

[shmmeee]

Of course the chances are low, but it's a cumulative probability. It only has to happen once an a large area is fucked for generations. And you know full well what we're like with upkeep costs on infrastructure in this country. Fuck that, let's give a massive wedge to the shareholders instead. The when it becomes a massive problem we'll just let it be nationalised and let the public purse pay for it.

Fact is the money we've spunked on nuclear and keeping gas/coal going over the years would have been sufficient to have had a viable renewable energy network in place by now. So we wouldn't be talking about needing to scrap green levies, or wholesale gas prices, or being bent over by the oil cartels and having to ignore all sorts of human rights abuses because it'd all be irrelevant and we'd have a much healthier environment to live in to boot. Those that are complaining about how the green levy is making energy unaffordable are making it that way because they refuse to give up antiquated energy sources out of financial self-interest.

The last serious nuclear disaster was Fukushima 11 years ago, you can go and visit it now. And we aren’t likely to be hit number an earthquake or a tsunami any time soon. This is all hangover from a generation ago when plants weren’t as safe.

What we should’ve done is go harder on nuclear instead of transitioning to gas.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

No I mean the downfall of the Tories not just the current PM. If Sunak takes over the half price pizza two years ago isn't going to be enough in the face of this. If it's Truss..... well what can I say?

I'd love you to be right but I can't see it. It'll damage them a bit but they'll be quick to push the "new leader, new Tories" mantra and sadly far too many people will fall for it.

Even if people are suffering with energy bills, food bills, mortgage increases there will still be this weird over-riding belief that the Tories are more economically competent.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The last serious nuclear disaster was Fukushima 11 years ago, you can go and visit it now. And we aren’t likely to be hit number an earthquake or a tsunami any time soon. This is all hangover from a generation ago when plants weren’t as safe.

What we should’ve done is go harder on nuclear instead of transitioning to gas.

I'm not fussed about the disasters, I am fussed about storing the waste!

Not that I particularly fancy the disaster angle either, mind you...

 

[SBT]

This is by far the most significant move against Boris from within his own ranks - more so than Theresa May's telling-off in parliament on Monday. He's on his own.

The only thing keeping him going at the moment is the Tory fear of having to call an election once they dump him.

 

[shmmeee]

I'm not fussed about the disasters, I am fussed about storing the waste!

Not that I particularly fancy the disaster angle either, mind you...

Store it on site. There’s very likely going to be reprocessing or reuse tech in the next 50-100 years anyway.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I'm not fussed about the disasters, I am fussed about storing the waste!

Not that I particularly fancy the disaster angle either, mind you...

I am pretty fussed about disasters. The numbers are small but the impact catastrophic.

 

[skybluetony176]

Backtrack not enough for one of his closest and longest serving inner circle

Boris Johnson's policy chief Munira Mirza resigns over PM's Savile remarks

Munira Mirza says the PM should have apologised to Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer over false claims.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[David O'Day]

 

[fernandopartridge]

Backtrack not enough for one of his closest and longest serving inner circle

Boris Johnson's policy chief Munira Mirza resigns over PM's Savile remarks

Munira Mirza says the PM should have apologised to Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer over false claims.

www.bbc.co.uk

You can be pretty naive, this isn't some noble act just Tory rats positioning.

 

[CCFCSteve]

The last serious nuclear disaster was Fukushima 11 years ago, you can go and visit it now. And we aren’t likely to be hit number an earthquake or a tsunami any time soon. This is all hangover from a generation ago when plants weren’t as safe.

What we should’ve done is go harder on nuclear instead of transitioning to gas.

Agreed shmmeee, but over the years there’s been protests against nuclear, protests against fracking, protests against coal…we/Europe have started ramping down fossil fuel usage to save the environment (correctly) without alternative energy infrastructure in place. Leaders of countries like China, Russia etc don’t give a fuck about the environment, other countries consumer costs etc and will do what they want and now we’re all being screwed by gas producers. What did everyone expect ?

We live in a society where too many don’t want to accept that in life there is sometimes a need to pick the least worst option…like at 2am on a Saturday night for example

 

[Ccfcisparks]

More rats leaving the sinking ship. Poor Boris.

 

[skybluetony176]

You can be pretty naive, this isn't some noble act just Tory rats positioning.

Yeah, some of her own comments on various things are coming to light and she’s said some pretty questionable things herself so this hardly seems to be a new found sense of decency.

 

[David O'Day]

Didn't she used to contribute to spiked magazine?

 

[stupot07]

 

[David O'Day]

Taking action that will likely lead to an election you get trounced in is a brave move by the DUP

 

[skybluetony176]

Taking action that will likely lead to an election you get trounced in is a brave move by the DUP

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[clint van damme]

Taking action that will likely lead to an election you get trounced in is a brave move by the DUP

it's almost as if people who don't believe in dinosaurs aren't really cut out for 21st century geopolitics.

 

[David O'Day]

interesting



If Larry the cat has resigned he's fucked

 

[stupot07]

2 more from Number 10, PMs Private Secretary Martin Reynolds and Chief of Staff Dan Rosenfield

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Backtrack not enough for one of his closest and longest serving inner circle

Boris Johnson's policy chief Munira Mirza resigns over PM's Savile remarks

Munira Mirza says the PM should have apologised to Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer over false claims.

www.bbc.co.uk

It's got nothing to do with integrity or what he said and everything about picking the winning side. They've seen the tide has turned and have no intention of letting their career go down with the ship.

So really it's the ship deserting the rat.