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Terry_dactyl

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I find Jimmy Carr isn't the most naturally likeable person, he's got a bit of the uncanny valley about him
Yeah I think you’re right.
I mean I’m not a fan of his comedy and there’s something on a visceral level.
Also, as has been highlighted…he’s a tax dodging git.
 

skybluetony176

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Bullshit. I went to uni with his brother. The guy is a grade A wanker.

Dodges taxes, laughs it off and no repercussions.

Fine, nothing is off bounds on comedy, let’s see him make the same joke about Jews. Let’s see principled anti-racist colleague Rachel Riley turn against him.

They live in this little celeb bubble and do what they like then when Little people question them they think they’re above it.
He paid them back, apologised and took a great deal of shit over it. Don’t think you can say he had no repercussions. Unlike the Tory doners Cameron didn’t name who use and continue to use tax avoidance schemes.

I can’t help but feel that Jimmy Carr yet again maybe being used by the media as a distraction for a Tory government.
 

Otis

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Can you let me know how many days after release I have before my window to be offended closes? I don’t want to lose my right to complain, should I start binge-watching comedy as soon as it comes out just on the off-chance?
Why is everyone offended now though? All this time after. There is word of mouth, there is social media, there is the press.

🤷
 

Nick

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There's certainly something a bit coordinated about it judging by the accounts pushing the outrage.
 

SBT

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I also wouldn't get on a soap box and pretend I've never laughed about a dark joke.

Context also comes into it, there's dark jokes about a massive range of things. It's not an hour of Holocaust jokes.

Anyone who pretends they’ve never made a dark joke is a liar, but again, that doesn’t mean all dark jokes are always justifiable, nor does it mean people don’t have the right to complain about them if the context is wrong.

Seems only fair to me that a comedian whose entire schtick is walking a high wire of edginess faces the music if he gets it wrong.
 

Nick

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Anyone who pretends they’ve never made a dark joke is a liar, but again, that doesn’t mean all dark jokes are always justifiable, nor does it mean people don’t have the right to complain about them if the context is wrong.

Seems only fair to me that a comedian whose entire schtick is walking a high wire of edginess faces the music if he gets it wrong.
Complaining and being outraged about something they have never watched. It's like me complaining about the food at the Ritz.
 

Otis

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Bullshit. I went to uni with his brother. The guy is a grade A wanker.

Dodges taxes, laughs it off and no repercussions.

Fine, nothing is off bounds on comedy, let’s see him make the same joke about Jews. Let’s see principled anti-racist colleague Rachel Riley turn against him.

They live in this little celeb bubble and do what they like then when Little people question them they think they’re above it.
Just what I read. People saying he's a nice guy in real life. 🤷 Maybe he's nice to some people and horrible to others. 😂
 

Grendel

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People are so outraged they are going to cancel their Netflix subscription ha ha
 

shmmeee

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Playing devil's advocate here because as I say, I don't care what he said, its OK to joke about the holocaust but illegal to deny it happened, isn't that contradictory?

Jokes aren’t a considered opinion. I do not think chickens actually cross roads to get to the other side. Why chickens cross roads is a job for zoologists, not comedians. Jokes are language constructs designed to make us laugh.

The joke here from Carr isn’t “lol gypsies” it’s subverting your expectations earlier on in the sentence, that’s one of the ways jokes work.

Everything can be joked about. Jokes are not a gateway drug to fascism as some would have you believe.

If you don’t like this joke format, fair enough, don’t watch it. I don’t like Mrs Brown’s Boys so I don’t watch it.
 

Grendel

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Bullshit. I went to uni with his brother. The guy is a grade A wanker.

Dodges taxes, laughs it off and no repercussions.

Fine, nothing is off bounds on comedy, let’s see him make the same joke about Jews. Let’s see principled anti-racist colleague Rachel Riley turn against him.

They live in this little celeb bubble and do what they like then when Little people question them they think they’re above it.

Why people are so offended by a desire to pay less tax I have no idea

Also I wondered when Rachel Riley would get a mention
 

SBT

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Why is everyone offended now though? All this time after. There is word of mouth, there is social media, there is the press.

🤷

I’m guessing because a Jimmy Carr special on Netflix doesn’t exactly trigger a national water cooler moment as soon as it gets released? Don’t get me wrong, there’s always some manufactured outrage out there. But it’s not exactly impossible for a Jimmy Carr joke to fly under the radar for a few weeks, he’s not Beyoncé.
 

SBT

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Yeah. Your mum gave me too much. Which was only fair because I gave her…

Which do you want to explain first - this “your mum” joke, or how the Jimmy Carr news cycle is actually a pro-Tory false flag operation from the global news media?
 

Grendel

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MP jumps on bandwagon shocker

 

Otis

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I’m guessing because a Jimmy Carr special on Netflix doesn’t exactly trigger a national water cooler moment as soon as it gets released? Don’t get me wrong, there’s always some manufactured outrage out there. But it’s not exactly impossible for a Jimmy Carr joke to fly under the radar for a few weeks, he’s not Beyoncé.
No. He's got better hair.
 

Otis

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But then you have to get consensus on what's acceptable, and the danger is nothing will be.
I'll be honest, I think what Carr said was in bad taste,but I'm a big fan of the likes of South Park and Frankie Boyle who've had similar reactions in the past so it would be hypocritical for me to get on my high horse.
You do have consensus, but if I walk up to you and call you a f*****g dirty ****** who should get back where you belong (I appreciate in this particular instance, it's Earlsdon, but you can see where I'm going!), then that's my right to say that, no?

It's not censorship to stop free speach from encompassing things that marginalise, trivialise, and Other certain groups, along with hitting deep into their psyche and legacy of hurt.

Now as it happens, personally I don't think this encompasses that, but free speach is not, and can never be, an absolute.
 

shmmeee

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If you advocate for free speech then holocaust denial shouldn't be illegal though like covid denial you have to be an absolute wrong un ro prescribe to that belief.

Holocaust denial isn’t illegal here. You’re thinking of Germany.
 

clint van damme

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Jokes aren’t a considered opinion. I do not think chickens actually cross roads to get to the other side. Why chickens cross roads is a job for zoologists, not comedians. Jokes are language constructs designed to make us laugh.

The joke here from Carr isn’t “lol gypsies” it’s subverting your expectations earlier on in the sentence, that’s one of the ways jokes work.

Everything can be joked about. Jokes are not a gateway drug to fascism as some would have you believe.

If you don’t like this joke format, fair enough, don’t watch it. I don’t like Mrs Brown’s Boys so I don’t watch it.

That's a fair point, butI still don't think holocaust denial should be illegal. There are plenty of other opinions which I don't agree with and find offensive that aren't.
 

Otis

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It's a horrendous joke whatever you think of gypsies. Put it this way, imagine he replaced Gypsies with Jews in it?
But then the joke wouldn't have worked would it. That was the whole point of the joke. We always talk about the millions of Jews that died, but so many other minority groups hardly get a mention (I didn't find the joke funny, as I already said)


And the hypocrisy of some of these MP's is astounding.
 

rob9872

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Miserable cunts. Funny is funny. I don't care the subject, cancer is very close to home but love jokes about anything. The key is knowing what's a joke and its intentions versus what's simply nasty to be a prick. If you don't know then you probably are a prick and I make no apology for that. Nothing is off limits with me and if it is with you don't watch. I'm certain some people just like being offended on behalf of others.
 

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