Do you want to discuss boring politics? (35 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

Lord Ahmed hasn't been a Labour peer for 8 years so not sure that is teh gotcha ESB thinks it is.

He is rightly in jail and should be in for even longer

 

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[Sick Boy]

I think Nadine Dorries realises if Johnson goes then it is a return to the backbenches and obscurity for her.

She's soon going to be the equivalent of Jayne Innes locally.

How did she become an MP in the first place?!! Who’d be stupid enough for vote for someone like her

 

[Grendel]

How did she become an MP in the first place?!! Who’d be stupid enough for vote for someone like her

I thought working class people from poor backgrounds - and a female as well - would be the type of person you’d like to see in politics?

 

[Sick Boy]

I thought working class people from poor backgrounds - and a female as well - would be the type of person you’d like to see in politics?

…I’d prefer to have people who are actually competent. Saying this to a Johnson and current cabinet champion probably doesn’t mean a lot though.

 

[shmmeee]

How did she become an MP in the first place?!! Who’d be stupid enough for vote for someone like her

From her wiki:



I would love to meet the 11 candidates she beat.

 

[PVA]

I thought working class people from poor backgrounds - and a female as well - would be the type of person you’d like to see in politics?

Who cares what their background, class, sex, is as long as they are competent.

 

[Philosoraptor]

Fast becoming my favourite user on Twitter.

 

[skybluetony176]

From her wiki:

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I would love to meet the 11 candidates she beat.

I bet none of them have runner up to Nadine Dorries on their CV.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

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God she's so awful.

No wonder we're in the state we are when this is that standard of cabinet minister.

She communicates better when fully pissed.

 

[Ian1779]

God she's so awful.

No wonder we're in the state we are when this is that standard of cabinet minister.

The way she reacted it’s like he was hiding round the corner and they had been busted

 

[PVA]

The way she reacted it’s like he was hiding round the corner and they had been busted

Yeah someone on Twitter said it was like they'd been shagging and she realised she'd just been caught out and immediately went on the defensive

 

[skybluetony176]

You know it’s ridiculous when you go on the Daily Mail website and they inform you that the interview of a Tory politician is even worse than the short clip you’ve seen online.

Tories warn of a blitz of 'deeply unpleasant' attacks on PM's wife

Boris Johnson's political opponents are said to be preparing a 'brutal briefing campaign' to discredit his wife in a bid to topple his premiership as fresh storm clouds circle over Downing Street.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Remainer plot indeed.

 

[PVA]

 

[shmmeee]

Fuuuuucking hell. Trumps coming back isn’t he?

 

[David O'Day]

Fuuuuucking hell. Trumps coming back isn’t he?

No

 

[shmmeee]

No

He’s definitely running in 24

 

[skybluetony176]

Hasn’t Guto Harri’s career gone down hill since he got sacked for taking the knee on GBB’s.

 

[SBT]

He’s definitely running in 24

He’s not getting re-elected

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He’s not getting re-elected

He still owns the Republican base and Biden’s approval is just awful. Wouldn’t bet against it

 

[Deleted member 5849]

He still owns the Republican base and Biden’s approval is just awful. Wouldn’t bet against it

Doesn't really matter what people think of Biden.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Doesn't really matter what people think of Biden.

Kind of does, it’s how he beat Hillary in the first place

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Kind of does

Really doesn't. Nobody cares about how popular or otherwise a former president is.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I heard this on 5live on the way home and the report pissed me off.

It said there are calls for Lord Ahmed to be stripped of his title, fuck anything about his title, he only got 5 years.
Is stripping him of his title the big issue here? He's shound never be allowed out.

Tricky when the offence was when he was 16-17

 

[clint van damme]

Tricky when the offence was when he was 16-17

Not in my eyes, guilty is guilty.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Not in my eyes, guilty is guilty.

In terms of sentence. Of course guilty is guilty my friend. What would you expect a 16-17 year old sentence to be?

 

[clint van damme]

In terms of sentence. Of course guilty is guilty my friend. What would you expect a 16-17 year old sentence to be?

Well 5 years is an insult.
I'm not one of the flog em and hang em brigade but his victims are going to have to live with this longer than 5 years.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Well 5 years is an insult.
I'm not one of the flog em and hang em brigade but his victims are going to have to live with this longer than 5 years.

They absolutely have I understand that . I just wondered what a sensible person like you thinks is an appropriate sentence for a 16 year old? I think it feels very different when someone is found guilty as an older adult

 

[clint van damme]

They absolutely have I understand that . I just wondered what a sensible person like you thinks is an appropriate sentence for a 16 year old? I think it feels very different when someone is found guilty as an older adult

We find children culpable at ridiculously early age in this country, (.think it might be 10,not sure), but he's eluded prosecution and obviously thought he'd got way with it.

He could have came forward at any time and pleaded immaturity as a mitigating circumstance but didn't because he thought he was in the clear, 5 years is an insult.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

We find children culpable at ridiculously early age in this country, (.think it might be 10,not sure), but he's eluded prosecution and obviously thought he'd got way with it.

He could have came forward at any time and pleaded immaturity as a mitigating circumstance but didn't because he thought he was in the clear, 5 years is an insult.

That’s true too although he did plead not guilty so unlikely to come forward with something he doesn’t think happened. You make a good point about not coming forward being a factor that should be taken into account. Thanks for helping me think about these things more fully

Think the age is 12 in the uk. As high as 18 in some countries and certainly our brains aren’t fully mature at 16 but I’m no expert in any of these areas

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We find children culpable at ridiculously early age in this country, (.think it might be 10,not sure), but he's eluded prosecution and obviously thought he'd got way with it.

He could have came forward at any time and pleaded immaturity as a mitigating circumstance but didn't because he thought he was in the clear, 5 years is an insult.

Think 8 is the minimum legal culpability for murder

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

That’s true too although he did plead not guilty so unlikely to come forward with something he doesn’t think happened. You make a good point about not coming forward being a factor that should be taken into account. Thanks for helping me think about these things more fully

Think the age is 12 in the uk. As high as 18 in some countries and certainly our brains aren’t fully mature at 16 but I’m no expert in any of these areas

I’m sorry you’re right it’s 10. Although 10-14 they have to be shown not only they did it but that they knew it was wrong.

 

[clint van damme]

Think 8 is the minimum legal culpability for murder

Didn't realise it went aslow as that. Food for thought there.

 

[clint van damme]

I’m sorry you’re right it’s 10. Although 10-14 they have to be shown not only they did it but that they knew it was wrong.

As heineous as the murder of James Bulger was, gangs of adults chasing the police van with those toe rags in never sat easy with me.

There's a lot if grey areas in these discussions

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Didn't realise it went aslow as that. Food for thought there.

Stand corrected, it used to be 8 in Scotland. Currently 10 in England.

The history of it is interesting as a whole separate subject.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

As heineous as the murder of James Bulger was, gangs of adults chasing the police van with those toe rags in never sat easy with me.

There's a lot if grey areas in these discussions

Yeah