USSR invades Ukraine. (25 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Then the whole room stood up and clapped

I think your brother just finally disproved the cliche that Brits do sarcasm better than Americans.

??? You know nothing about my brother ???Are you saying you don't believe me/him - I think my brother knows sarcasm, and I wasn't saying they're all like that, just that in his observation, the world outside the USA is irrelevant. He worked in China for years too, and had some interesting observations on them and their mindset re: 'the Chinese know best and any other way is wrong'.

 

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[Deleted member 5849]

Last time I was in America I spoke to someone who thought England was in Germany.

Ha, you didn't stay in a motel in orlando too, did you?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Last time I was in America I spoke to someone who thought England was in Germany.

Best takes from my last visit:

- How are things in your country of London
- You speak really good English for an Australian (aimed at a mate)
- How well do you know the queen
- Do you really have CCTV everywhere

That being said, most Americans I have met have actually been really lovely people. Just a lot of them have no clue about things outside of their bubble.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Don't they do that quite often?

Did wonder if they might try to take advantage of the current chaos.

 

[Evo1883]

Amazing the reaction to a countries behaviour when it's not us or our allies .. who for example , invaded Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan , Yemen, Guatemala, Panama, Rwanda, Vietnam etc .

Weird how we are programmed to behave differently when certain other people do things

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Did wonder if they might try to take advantage of the current chaos.

They do it regularly to assert their claim.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Ha, you didn't stay in a motel in orlando too, did you?

It was near Orlando, although at a pharmacy.

 

[Evo1883]

We will have Tony Blair on the news soon telling us Russia have broken international law

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It is a defence though. It is nowhere near as bad as some people are making out and it is certainly better than nothing.

If Corbyn was in we would have that, nothing. People don't like it being pointed out.

It's not a defence. It's a deterrent. You need to learn the difference.

Our nuclear capability makes people think twice about nuking us. It deters them. But once that bomb is on the way Trident offers NO defence at all. It won't stop that bomb reaching us, it won't limit the destruction it causes.

It's like leaving someone on the halfway line when the opposition has a corner. That person isn't defending the corner, but they're deterring the opposition from sending more people to attack.

 

[Evo1883]

Ukraine surrendered their nuclear powers in 1994 to UK, USA and Russia in exchange for protection ..

 

[Liquid Gold]

Amazing the reaction to a countries behaviour when it's not us or our allies .. who for example , invaded Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan , Yemen, Guatemala, Panama, Rwanda, Vietnam etc .

Weird how we are programmed to behave differently when certain other people do things

It's a propaganda thing though isn't it (even if we like to call it spin here).

We invaded Iraq because our government spun the lie that we're 45 minutes from being attacked. A majority, despite what opinion polls say now, supported the war. If you were a Russian then you'd think the UK population had been obviously lied to by their government so they can go and get a slice of Iraq's oil.

Now with the shoe on the other foot Russians believe that the Ukrainian army is attacking them due to what their government and media is telling them and from the outside we can see it's just Putin's territorial expansion plans.

For us to have more clout in the world we need to stop rushing into situations that have nothing to do with us. Steaming into Libya and fucking the place up for example.

Now we go to the UN and say "Russia have to stop" a load of other members are going to say "They're just doing what you've done in the past"

 

[SBT]

Best takes from my last visit:

- How are things in your country of London
- You speak really good English for an Australian (aimed at a mate)
- How well do you know the queen
- Do you really have CCTV everywhere

That being said, most Americans I have met have actually been really lovely people. Just a lot of them have no clue about things outside of their bubble.

I lived in America for many years and can only assume you were all hanging out with total headcases!

(I got the Australian thing all the time though)

 

[stupot07]

NATO should sign an agreement for Ukraine to join with immediate affect.

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[PVA]

The Corbyn argument is a strange one. A totally hypothetical argument based on something that didn't happen two years ago.

Meanwhile the bloke who won the vote is totally in bed with the Russians and is too scared to do anything because he doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds him. What a wonderful situation we're in.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

NATO should sign an agreement for Ukraine to join with immediate affect.

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Well, the entire thing does show ukraine were absolutely justified in wanting NATO membership. You have to wonder if Putin would have done this if they were, knowing the NATO alliance would wade in?

 

[PVA]

Fucking hell, utterly terrifying

(the second video, not the first)

 

[SBT]

Well, the entire thing does show ukraine were absolutely justified in wanting NATO membership. You have to wonder if Putin would have done this if they were, knowing the NATO alliance would wade in?

Some would have you believe this was all NATO’s fault in the first place. They’re a bit quieter today.

 

[Nick]

Fucking hell, it's like call of duty.

 

[David O'Day]

Fair play to Schalke who at what is probably the cost of millions to them have sacked of Grazprom as their sponsors

 

[LastGarrison]

Fucking hell, utterly terrifying

(the second video, not the first)

And there is the actual reality.

Hundreds, if not thousands, of people are going to die and over what?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Fucking hell, utterly terrifying

(the second video, not the first)

military targets

 

[olderskyblue]

Nope. Most say it's in France

Friends of mine in USA say that the UK is an American battleship, just off the coast of Europe

 

[skybluetony176]

 

[fernandopartridge]

Brut force

I heard that they had a (Far) Right Guard

 

[Liquid Gold]

What are this supposedly huge and well equipped Ukrainian army up to?

 

[SBT]

I heard that they had a (Far) Right Guard

We need to break off Lynx with Moscow

 

[Liquid Gold]

We need to break off Lynx with Moscow

Time to give Putin the Axe

 

[duffer]

Well, the entire thing does show ukraine were absolutely justified in wanting NATO membership. You have to wonder if Putin would have done this if they were, knowing the NATO alliance would wade in?

There's absolutely no way Putin does this if Ukraine is part of NATO.

An unintended consequence of this madness will be absolutely what Putin hates, NATO membership increasing elsewhere.

 

[David O'Day]

What are this supposedly huge and well equipped Ukrainian army up to?

fighting the russians, already beaten back a russian land thrust aiming for kiev.

 

[Liquid Gold]

fighting the russians, already beaten back a russian land thrust aiming for kiev.

According to that video by CNN the Russians are already basically in Kyiv though

 

[stupot07]

Now they are fighting over Chernobyl with the Russians trying to seize the power plant.

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[David O'Day]

According to that video by CNN the Russians are already basically in Kyiv though

they fly to an airport where the ukrainians are fighting them

 

[stupot07]

According to that video by CNN the Russians are already basically in Kyiv though

I think those are Russian paratroopers been dropped behind enemy lines. They have taken an airport 15 miles from Kyiv.

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[David O'Day]

I think those are Russian paratroopers been dropped behind enemy lines. They have taken an airport 15 miles from Kyiv.

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this

 

[tisza]

What are this supposedly huge and well equipped Ukrainian army up to?

Without air cover they can't just stand and fight - they'd lose quickly