USSR invades Ukraine. (20 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

Yes it attacked Serbia over kosovo

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Which is also (inconveniently for grendull) the only real opportunity that the US has had to get involved in conflict in Europe, no one had to attack the US directly for it to happen either. It’s almost as if there was a pact formed between European countries and the the US after the war grendull keeps childishly referring to as if he’s making some sort of valid point.

 

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[Grendel]

Didn’t it intervene with Milosevic?

it didn’t directly get involved until 4 years into the conflict and a peace settlement was being devised I don’t think there was a single military uS casualty

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

With a lot of Europe now banning Russian aircrafts from its airspace, what happens if Russia ignores this ban?

Well, they're not going to shoot civilian aircraft down.

Deny landing or impound planes I imagine.

 

[David O'Day]

Well, they're not going to shoot civilian aircraft down.

Deny landing or impound planes I imagine.

Impound the planes or force our of airspace most likely

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[skybluegod]

Name one instance where America have supported Europe unless it itself was under attack

the first thing Biden did was let Afghanistan rot

So no is the answer then.

 

[Otis]

it didn’t directly get involved until 4 years into the conflict and a peace settlement was being devised I don’t think there was a single military uS casualty

Didn't get involved for 4 years? Where have I heard that before about the Americans?

 

[tisza]

Orbán is a prick, just don't tell him I said that he might terminate my residency .

I didn't comment on anything until mine came through would still not comment on social media now as heavily monitored by Fidesz. Got some horror stories on that.

 

[Kieranp96]

I didn't comment on anything until mine came through would still not comment on social media now as heavily monitored by Fidesz. Got some horror stories on that.

Let's hope he don't browse skybluestalk lol.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Let's hope he don't browse skybluestalk lol.

Could just have people doing a search for his name and seeing what they write...

 

[tisza]

Didn’t it intervene with Milosevic?

Yep. None of those being protected were members of NATO at the time but they used the grounds of stopping genocide that time. Wonder how many Ukrainian civilian deaths count as genocide. Also why Putin used genocide as the reason for Donbass etc.

 

[tisza]

Let's hope he don't browse skybluestalk lol.

Only a problem if Nick grasses me up

 

[PVA]

They put a flag up, what more can they do!

 

[skybluegod]

With a lot of Europe now banning Russian aircrafts from its airspace, what happens if Russia ignores this ban?

The real answer is exactly what we do already with Russian military aircraft. We will respond with our QRA assets. It would then be down to the individual circumstances on how we handle that aircraft, but it would be a lot of high level people deciding based on already agreed potential actions.

 

[Ian1779]

Seems like Turkey have blocked Black Sea access for Russia.

 

[Otis]

They put a flag up, what more can they do!

#standwithukrainekneelwithmillwall

 

[tisza]

Russia now blocking Twitter inside Russia.

 

[PVA]

Just a normal day in Kyiv apparently

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yep. None of those being protected were members of NATO at the time but they used the grounds of stopping genocide that time. Wonder how many Ukrainian civilian deaths count as genocide. Also why Putin used genocide as the reason for Donbass etc.

Putin is already some way there on the ‘path to genocide’ with his denial that Ukraine is a legitimate state in the first place. Again though, he has nukes whereas Yugoslavia had none

 

[stay_up_skyblues]

Just a normal day in Kyiv apparently

There was a story on RT uk today that the Ukrainian troops had bombed a nursery. Unbelievable viewing it needs taking down.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Seems like Turkey have blocked Black Sea access for Russia.

Fair fucks to them but I don't know how they enforce that if a Russian battleship comes steaming up the Bosporus.

Actually a little surprised as Erdogan is very much in the same mould as Putin.

 

[skybluetony176]

it didn’t directly get involved until 4 years into the conflict and a peace settlement was being devised I don’t think there was a single military uS casualty

They were involved with the no fly zone from 1991 under UN and NATO resolution which is also when Europe got involved so more nonsense. When NATO did put troops on the ground it was also under US command. Try reading a book.

 

[Grendel]

So no is the answer then.

The answer is yes as proved by history you are very naive you’ll be telling me we have a special relationship soon

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The answer is yes as proved by history you are very naive you’ll be telling me we have a special relationship soon

Well actually not as you were given a valid counterexample.

 

[Grendel]

Well actually not as you were given a valid counterexample.

it wasn’t - they joined a peace keeping force 4 years after the event which is pretty much the timescale so I guess they may pop along in 2026 for a short while

 

[tisza]

Just a normal day in Kyiv apparently

What happens when you shut independent media and everything is state controlled.
Started lying to justify the build up, the invasion and how the invasion progresses. Surprised we're not seeing pictures on Russian media of Ukrainians welcoming a liberating army.

 

[Houchens Head]

What like? Not sure a round of applause is going to do much against fighter jets.

Same affect for clapping a dead person, then? Do they hear the applause?

 

[skybluegod]

The answer is yes as proved by history you are very naive you’ll be telling me we have a special relationship soon

Yes because wars that happened decades ago are comparable to 2022. I look forward to when American forces permanently based across American European bases, just uproot and leave overnight.

Not to mention, the example already given.

 

[Grendel]

Yes because wars that happened decades ago are comparable to 2022. I look forward to when American forces permanently based across American European bases, just uproot and leave overnight.

Not to mention, the example already given.

the example being 4 years after the event but if that’s what you believe and sleepy Jo will go against his people good luck

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Since you have that shitty attitude, I guess you feel nothing for these kids burnt to a crisp? Brothers, dad's, sons dead because of some selfish and crazy prick.

Tough shit isn't it .They're only carrying out Putin's orders. That's okay then it's not their fault. That makes it okay then . They can kill who they like.
I couldn't give a shit about the Russian military. They're all part of Putin's plan to enslave a democracy.
They can burn in hell and in agony .
You're the sort that be would have welcomed the Nazi soldiers when they overran the Channel Islands, because they were only carrying out Hitler's orders. It's not down to the soldier pointing the rifle.

You're a disgrace. Ukrainians are dying in order for people like you to have you're freedom. Russians are dying because they wish to end democracy and enslave a nation.
But it's not their fault.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

With a lot of Europe now banning Russian aircrafts from its airspace, what happens if Russia ignores this ban?

Perish the thought.

 

[Kieranp96]

Tough shit isn't it .They're only carrying out Putin's orders. That's okay then it's not their fault. That makes it okay then . They can kill who they like.
I couldn't give a shit about the Russian military. They're all part of Putin's plan to enslave a democracy.
They can burn in hell and in agony .
You're the sort that be would have welcomed the Nazi soldiers when they overran the Channel Islands, because they were only carrying out Hitler's orders. It's not down to the soldier pointing the rifle.

You're a disgrace. Ukrainians are dying in order for people like you to have you're freedom. Russians are dying because they wish to end democracy and enslave a nation.
But it's not their fault.

Not at all, but if you hadn't noticed it's 2021 not 1941, different world we live in now + is you didn't realise the Russians were told just a exercise then a few mins before invasion they was told, you're a moron, let me guess you want NATO to step in and start a nuclear war?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Tough shit isn't it ? They're only carrying out Putin's orders. That's okay then it's not their fault. That makes it okay then . I couldn't give a shit about the Russian military. They're all part of Putin's plan to enslave a democracy.
They can burn in hell and in agony .

Hmmm, the step of blaming the average squaddie for the ills of the people in power is a dangerous path to take.

Russians are dying because they wish to end democracy and enslave a nation.

I sincerely doubt that's why many of the soldiers are there.

 

[Kieranp96]

Tough shit isn't it .They're only carrying out Putin's orders. That's okay then it's not their fault. That makes it okay then . They can kill who they like.
I couldn't give a shit about the Russian military. They're all part of Putin's plan to enslave a democracy.
They can burn in hell and in agony .
You're the sort that be would have welcomed the Nazi soldiers when they overran the Channel Islands, because they were only carrying out Hitler's orders. It's not down to the soldier pointing the rifle.

You're a disgrace. Ukrainians are dying in order for people like you to have you're freedom. Russians are dying because they wish to end democracy and enslave a nation.
But it's not their fault.

You do realise I have a Ukrainian family on the way to mine and my GFS house? You don't know nothing about me.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

You do realise I have a Ukrainian family on the way to mine and my GFS house? You don't know nothing about me.

And yet the Russian military are not to blame. They are as much victims as the Ukrainians.
I hope your "Ukrainian family" feel the same way as you do. I doubt it.

 

[Kieranp96]

And yet the Russian military are not to blame. They are as much victims as the Ukrainians.
I hope your "Ukrainian family" feel the same way as you do. I doubt it.

anyone with common sense know the only people to blame is the politics