USSR invades Ukraine. (21 Viewers)

Sick Boy

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Seems crazy , guessing it's not as a stand alone nation as Ukraine would slap them about , basically the Italy of ww2 🙃
It’s probably what happens if you’re forced to fight by a madman and don’t believe in the the aim of it, much like we’re seeing with the Russians now.
 

tisza

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Seems like Russians have managed to "liberate" their choice for puppet govt leader (Medvedchuk) from his house arrest for treason.
 

Kieranp96

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Apparently NATO is to blame, what a c**t.
Indeed, let's hope his military overthrow the psycho before he does something even more stupid, I do hope he attacks a NATO country just because I want to see NATO power completely destroy the Russians just wish nukes wasn't a option tbh.
 

CCFCSteve

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They are going to meet it seems

Fingers crossed but hopefully not to give Putin anything substantive. If Ukraine decide to say they have no intention of joining nato then fair enough (no lifetime commitments though as the world can change very quickly as we have seen !) but they can’t commit any more than that.

I’m not sure if that’s enough for Putin to justify his actions back home. He’s dug a massive hole for himself and I’m struggling to see how he gets out of it with any credibility which is a worry in a way
 

David O'Day

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Seems like Russians have managed to "liberate" their choice for puppet govt leader (Medvedchuk) from his house arrest for treason.

Just don't see the point, it's clear that even if they topple the current government and install a puppet regime the people of the people of Ukraine will still keep fighting
 

tisza

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Just don't see the point, it's clear that even if they topple the current government and install a puppet regime the people of the people of Ukraine will still keep fighting
I think because it's what they have done before but their previous efforts were in much smaller countries. They assume it will work again.
 

CCFCSteve

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So, Putins actions so far have…

Brought the west/nato strongly together for the first time in years
Brought significant economic sanctions onto his own country, himself and his cronies
Encouraged Germany to drop their long standing rule to not supply lethal weapons to countries
Accelerated focus of countries to seek alternative energy supplies/imports that his own economy is reliant on selling to them
Got Germany to boost their defence spending to the largest in Europe
Got hundreds or thousands of Russian military needlessly killed
Led to a significant increase in Nato military presence in eastern Europe
Caused a number of protests on the streets of Russia which could lead to public questioning his leadership however this ends
Made non nato members in region start to seriously consider joining nato
Led to a loss of support of various countries that were willing to work with him/have a relationship with him

Played a blinder ! There’s a long way to go and I really can’t see how this ends, however, I can’t imagine this is how he envisaged the first week panning out. Who’s advising him ?! What a totaly unnecessary mess
 

Sick Boy

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So, Putins actions so far have…

Brought the west/nato strongly together for the first time in years
Brought significant economic sanctions onto his own country, himself and his cronies
Encouraged Germany to drop their long standing rule to not supply lethal weapons to countries
Accelerated focus of countries to seek alternative energy supplies/imports that his own economy is reliant on selling to them
Got Germany to boost their defence spending to the largest in Europe
Got hundreds or thousands of Russian military needlessly killed
Led to a significant increase in Nato military presence in eastern Europe
Caused a number of protests on the streets of Russia which could lead to public questioning his leadership however this ends
Made non nato members in region start to seriously consider joining nato
Led to a loss of support of various countries that were willing to work with him/have a relationship with him

Played a blinder ! There’s a long way to go and I really can’t see how this ends, however, I can’t imagine this is how he envisaged the first week panning out. Who’s advising him ?! What a totaly unnecessary mess
Hopefully it’ll also see the beginning of the end of the division across the western world and realise that we’ve been played by an actual enemy.
 

skybluetony176

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I think David Lammy made this point on TV this morning prompting Pritti Patel to call him a liar on twitter posting a link to the government’s guidance on line as proof he’s lying only for the link to prove him correct in what he was saying. Which was basically that there’s no route for Ukrainians fleeing war to join family and loved ones in the UK.
 

skybluetony176

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Now that is brave with Belarus's history of imprisoning and torturing opponents and dissidents
He stole the last election with Putins support, he’s not exactly a popular leader and he’s just made himself even more unpopular. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that this triggers a civil war in Belarus as I think he has the army behind him. That will be the EU’s and NATO’a fault no doubt too.
 

CCFCSteve

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Hopefully it’ll also see the beginning of the end of the division across the western world and realise that we’ve been played by an actual enemy.

Yeah, there have been unnecessary divisions between western nations and culturally within countries. All of which appear relatively minor in the grand scheme of things when stuff like this happens.
 

CCFCSteve

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I think David Lammy made this point on TV this morning prompting Pritti Patel to call him a liar on twitter posting a link to the government’s guidance on line as proof he’s lying only for the link to prove him correct in what he was saying. Which was basically that there’s no route for Ukrainians fleeing war to join family and loved ones in the UK.

The government aren’t covering themselves in glory but it doesn’t appear as bad as some are suggest and expected to improve further


ps I’d personally be disgusted if they are stopping people joining relatives
 

Sick Boy

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The government aren’t covering themselves in glory but it’s not as bad as suggested and expected to improve further

I hadn’t seen the seasonal worker Tweet, what sort of moron would come out with something like that.
 

PVA

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The government aren’t covering themselves in glory but it doesn’t appear as bad as some are suggest and expected to improve further


ps I’d personally be disgusted if they are stopping people joining relatives

Only easing the restrictions after the outrage about their original plans sums the government up though
 
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