USSR invades Ukraine. (14 Viewers)

PVA

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BBC still reporting that only one major city has fallen. @Grendel can you please email them and inform them that actually a large portion of major cities have fallen? Thanks
 

PVA

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Interesting thread on the state of the Russian army and their poor logistics


Again, it's not the all conquering modern super army many thought


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stupot07

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Interesting thread on the state of the Russian army and their poor logistics


Again, it's not the all conquering modern super army many thought


(no LinkedIn profile for the author, but several books)

Yeah but how many LinkedIn connections does he have?

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Brighton Sky Blue

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1.5 million refugees have now left. I take it since we won’t lift a finger militarily to help that we and all other NATO countries will offer an open door to all who want to escape the Putin invasion as he cracks on with it?

Only temporarily of course, because he’ll give it all back after he conquers the country.
 

Grendel

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Good insignt on BBC Sunday show from Admiral Tony Radadon on the military dilemma and no fly zone

the issue is though he did admit if Russia cannot access the capital then they will probably blast the place to dust and had no real solution to prevent it other than “it would be really outrageous”
 

Grendel

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1.5 million refugees have now left. I take it since we won’t lift a finger militarily to help that we and all other NATO countries will offer an open door to all who want to escape the Putin invasion as he cracks on with it?

Only temporarily of course, because he’ll give it all back after he conquers the country.

It’s ok the he’s only the verge of collapse though verge can it seem mean 10 years
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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the issue is though he did admit if Russia cannot access the capital then they will probably blast the place to dust and had no real solution to prevent it other than “it would be really outrageous”

Same as your position then.
 

CCFCSteve

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Interesting thread on the state of the Russian army and their poor logistics


Again, it's not the all conquering modern super army many thought


(no LinkedIn profile for the author, but several books)



You could imagine that there is a real issue with lower level military (maybe even higher level) not being back to push back on orders and saying ‘no, that’s no possible’…for fear of imprisonment or possibly death !

That culture of fear works in some situations but I’d imagine it’s having a real negative impact here, especially relating to logistics/strategy
 

Grendel

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Sick Boy

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that’s odd I asked a question is this what is called wataboutery? Or is the Islington crew immune from such shocking practices
HA! You answered my original question with your question. Are you enjoying your morning coffee in Muswell Hill?
 

Flying Fokker

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Great read. There Is hope that more people like him will gain an influence.

The people of Russia were told there would only be a war if they were attacked. No wonder they disbelieve(d) people phoning from Ukraine. Mother Russia wouldn’t do such a thing.

Is Russiangoing to end up with a demilitarised zone?
 

PVA

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Seems a bit more than 16 to me


That's great. It's very nice of them to give us a billion names.

However if you actually check the official government UK sanctions list you will see that 15 Russians have been sanctioned since the start of the war.

You can check here.


 

Grendel

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That's great. It's very nice of them to give us a billion names.

However if you actually check the official government UK sanctions list you will see that 15 Russians have been sanctioned since the start of the war.

You can check here. You're welcome.



so you acknowledge the U.K. we’re ahead of other countries before

wow it must really hurt that Johnson was ahead and leading the way
 

PVA

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so you acknowledge the U.K. we’re ahead of other countries before

wow it must really hurt that Johnson was ahead and leading the way

Hahaha windmilling again.

I note you ignored my previous posts about the Russian army by the way, was that guy too qualified for you?

What about the BBC reporting only two major cities have fallen, I thought you said a large portion had?
 

tisza

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Interesting thread on the state of the Russian army and their poor logistics


Again, it's not the all conquering modern super army many thought


(no LinkedIn profile for the author, but several books)


They've got another issue coming up with logistics.
As the ground thaws going to severely limit movement and Ukraine doesn't have an extensive (or well-maintained) road network. In a normal year we couldn't get on the ground to drill until mid-April because it was just too wet. So even tanks will have to stay next to the roads just to be refuelled.
We used to move combines and tractors all round the place rather than straight from A to B because bridges couldn't take heavy loads, not a lot of side roads where you can easily take shortcuts. Also a lot of the side roads etc are still gravel rather than tarmac.
So convoys etc going to be concentrated in small spaces but I suppose that will apply to Ukrainian forces trying to attack these convoys as well.
Plus looking at that twitter video of the lorries etc on a train I recognise several of those types and they are literally out of the Ark. Only reason a few of them are still around in private ownership in Hungary is that they are easily maintained because they are so basic. But got no speed, fuel efficiency or load capacity
 

baldy

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The Mirror claiming that Russia are planning to carry out public executions in Ukraine next apparently
 

PVA

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They've got another issue coming up with logistics.
As the ground thaws going to severely limit movement and Ukraine doesn't have an extensive (or well-maintained) road network. In a normal year we couldn't get on the ground to drill until mid-April because it was just too wet. So even tanks will have to stay next to the roads just to be refuelled.
We used to move combines and tractors all round the place rather than straight from A to B because bridges couldn't take heavy loads, not a lot of side roads where you can easily take shortcuts. Also a lot of the side roads etc are still gravel rather than tarmac.
So convoys etc going to be concentrated in small spaces but I suppose that will apply to Ukrainian forces trying to attack these convoys as well.
Plus looking at that twitter video of the lorries etc on a train I recognise several of those types and they are literally out of the Ark. Only reason a few of them are still around in private ownership in Hungary is that they are easily maintained because they are so basic. But got no speed, fuel efficiency or load capacity

Yeah it's coming up to 'mud season'

That convoy is going very far any time soon, which I think explains why Ukraine haven't bombed it - they've got more pressing issues for their air force to deal with
 

CCFCSteve

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Interesting thread on the state of the Russian army and their poor logistics


Again, it's not the all conquering modern super army many thought


(no LinkedIn profile for the author, but several books)



The video down the thread showing the convoy that had been blown up 😳

 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Putin wants a Czarist Russia not the USSR, he saw the Bolsheviks as traitors for breaking up Russia and giving the SSRs the right of secession. I find it difficult to believe he admires Stalin on that basis.
I guess, given the size of the Russian empire and he definitely sees himself in Czarist terms, but I think his playbook is more Stalinist. So it's a sort of hybrid of the two.
 

chiefdave

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You’re 100% right. People are moaning about Boris’s and Britains response but we have led the way in support for Ukraine to see off the Russain invasion and Russia well know this.
I hope your right but given their track record I fear weeks or months down the line we'll hear different.

Already this morning I've seen reports of a women who has spent 4 days with her young daughter getting to Calais only to be refused entry to the UK and a charity reporting that the government won't remove the red tape and costs we've incurred post-Brexit so they have to raise an additional £6K to cover fees to enable them to get aid to Ukraine.
 

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