Goal or no goal (2 Viewers)

[Johhny Blue]

Those stills don’t prove that it was in. Live I was sure the ref was going to give it. When it wasn’t given I begrudgingly accepted that it hadn’t crossed the line.
Ignoring the ball and seeing how far the defender is from the line seems that the ball should be over when it hits him.
I wonder if the watch was checked post game or if we’ll ever know.
Bottom line. We lost and it’s lucky it wouldn’t have been an equalizer or winner.
I decided I’m not sure enough either way to vote but gut feeling is it didn’t cross the line.

I should have scrolled further. I’ve voted now. No goal

 

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[David O'Day]

Where has it been pointed out that I'm wrong? The technology gives a scientific yes or no answer to a goal. The answer is no as the whole ball has not crossed the line. Its very simple

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the still is not the furthest it went you weird lesta weirdo

 

[David O'Day]

The results of hawkeye are above on this thread from the side

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hawkeye of the ball after it rolled back derek

 

[rexo87]

it's a flawed picture you halfwitted lesta twat

Why would the hawkeye be a flawed picture but the grainy twitter picture be 100% spot on? Mate let it go. We were shite and the ball wasn't over the line

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[Liquid Gold]

How was the Tavares one not? I thought the Hyam one was as well.

And Gyokeres is given more often than not IMO

 

[David O'Day]

So you reckon the EFL has chosen to only screenshot after the ball goes back in contact with the line.

Why?

because the shot given was wrong

 

[shmmeee]

And Gyokeres is given more often than not IMO

He gets nothing and is constantly pulled around.

 

[pusbccfc]

Serious question.

Why doesn't the Hawkeye footage show the rugby line?

 

[Liquid Gold]

because the shot given was wrong

But why have they chosen to do that instead of given the point where you think it would show a goal?

What are the EFL gaining from cheating this goal away?

 

[David O'Day]

Why would the hawkeye be a flawed picture but the grainy twitter picture be 100% spot on? Mate let it go. We were shite and the ball wasn't over the line

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Because the hawkeye picture is after it hits there player and rolls backwards

Did you go to school

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[David O'Day]

But why have they chosen to do that instead of given the point where you think it would show a goal?

What are the EFL gaining from cheating this goal away?

Not said anyone is gaming anyone, just the tech failed.

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[Liquid Gold]

Not said anyone is gaming anyone, just the tech failed.

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If the tech failed why have they released a Hawkeye showing it not to be a goal? What are they gaining from it?

 

[shmmeee]

Serious question.

Why doesn't the Hawkeye footage show the rugby line?

Bevause it’s reconstructed. It likely works off a virtual line based on the base of the goal posts calibrated on set up not on the actual painted lines.

 

[rexo87]

Because the hawkeye picture is after it hits there player and rolls backwards

Did you go to school

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David I can see you're understandably frustrated given ours and the referees performance so I'll leave it there. They don't just make the technology up from any random picture. Once the ball crosses the line completely the refs watch buzzes and tells him it's over the line. At no point did this happen

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[hill83]

I've never really been in an argument with David O'Day before and think people take it too far with the stuff they say about him, but maybe I was wrong. Lunatic.

Wow etc

 

[David O'Day]

If the tech failed why have they released a Hawkeye showing it not to be a goal? What are they gaining from it?

Because the still taken is after it hits their player and rolls back towards the line.

We didn't deserve anything but wow

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[David O'Day]

I've never really been in an argument with David O'Day before and think people take it too far with the stuff they say about him, but maybe I was wrong. Lunatic.

Wow etc

Lol

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[GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee]

I've never really been in an argument with David O'Day before and think people take it too far with the stuff they say about him, but maybe I was wrong. Lunatic.

Wow etc

Was gonna post exactly the same


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[pusbccfc]

Bevause it’s reconstructed. It likely works off a virtual line based on the base of the goal posts calibrated on set up not on the actual painted lines.

Which makes it worse for me. The image shows the ball on the line by a blade or two of grass.

Every chance those two blades of grass aren't even white.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Because the still taken is after it hits their player and rolls back towards the line.

We didn't deserve anything but wow

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Then why haven't they released the still where the ball is over the line?

 

[David O'Day]

Then why haven't they released the still where the ball is over the line?

you're asking the wrong person

 

[shmmeee]

Which makes it worse for me. The image shows the ball on the line by a blade or two of grass.

Every chance those two blades of grass aren't even white.

Then the paint would be wrong technically.

I think the whole ball whole line thing is a stupid rule but it is the rule.

 

[skybluesam66]

I think that’s the issue. The margin is so fine it is possibly over the line but not the virtual line. We are talking about 2mm. I blame the groundsman

 

[Frostie]

You can see the video here. The still image is taken at the correct time.
Unbelievably close but no goal.

 

[David O'Day]

Was gonna post exactly the same


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who the fuck are you

 

[hill83]

Then the paint would be wrong technically.

I think the whole ball whole line thing is a stupid rule but it is the rule.

So for arguments sake, if the whole ball over the line thing is stupid, where do you draw the line?

 

[David O'Day]

You can see the video here. The still image is taken at the correct time.
Unbelievably close but no goal.

the ball rolls backwards before they free it thanks i win

 

[hill83]

You can see the video here. The still image is taken at the correct time.
Unbelievably close but no goal.

Oh look at that, the ball was in the air bouncing up and down. Just like it clearly was in the original dodgy angled video.

 

[shmmeee]

So for arguments sake, if the whole ball over the line thing is stupid, where do you draw the line?

Middle of the line for me. It’s not logical, just feels wrong to me.

Genuine question is that the rule for all lines? Is a foul a mm into the pen area like a pen?

 

[Liquid Gold]

So for arguments sake, if the whole ball over the line thing is stupid, where do you draw the line?

the only alternative is to go the way of other sports and go any of the ball crosses the line because that is the only other one that can be definitely proven. Most of the ball is too subjective.

I think this is the right rule.

 

[hill83]

Middle of the line for me. It’s not logical, just feels wrong to me.

Hang on, middle of the line on the pitch or middle of the ball?

 

[Liquid Gold]

Oh look at that, the ball was in the air bouncing up and down. Just like it clearly was in the original dodgy angled video.

wow

 

[David O'Day]

Oh look at that, the ball was in the air bouncing up and down. Just like it clearly was in the original dodgy angled video.

it hits their player and rolls back before they freeze frame it in that video

 

[shmmeee]

Hang on, middle of the line on the pitch or middle of the ball?

Whole ball, middle of the white line.

 

[hill83]

it hits their player and rolls back before they freeze frame it in that video