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PVA said:
Minister on £115k per year is feeling the pinch apparently


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tbf, with three children and an ex wife, and oil fired central heating, he probably is. Not as much as some, but more than Rees-Mogg.

And it does actually show some kind of empathy in there too. It's actually not a bad interview overall... for a Tory, anyway ;)
 
jimmyhillsfanclub

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The only plus to the energy hike so far is the the gang of lads running 24/7 bitcoin mines in 4 industrial units near me may have to get a new plan.....The amount of heat being kicked out of their vents could heat the rest of the units in the terrace!
 
Philosoraptor

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"This new beginning creates a real opportunity to deliver a railway which is for the nation, and fully focused on being run for the benefit of its users - customers, staff and stakeholders, as opposed to shareholders."

www.bbc.co.uk

ScotRail goes back into public ownership

An arms-length Scottish government company takes over running the rail franchise from Abellio.
www.bbc.co.uk

Saying the right stuff, anyway.
 
Ian1779

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Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s why we need an opposition but and it’s a big big but the bastards that have done this are not the Labour Party it’s the Tory party
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Starmer can’t even muster the energy to defend poor people from having their power cut off. He is the most useless bastard at the worst possible time.
 
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Ian1779 said:
Starmer can’t even muster the energy to defend poor people from having their power cut off. He is the most useless bastard at the worst possible time.
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I'm sorry but I just don't understand why he gets the brunt of your ire rather than Boris Johnson?

Yes Starmer should say more, I fully agree with you there. But it doesn't matter if he says nothing or if he promises to pay everyone's energy bills for the next year out of his own pocket - he can't do anything about it.

Meanwhile the man who can actually do something about it.... is silent and too busy trying to keep his Russian links out the news and trying to quieten stories of him breaking the law.
 
Ian1779

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PVA said:
I'm sorry but I just don't understand why he gets the brunt of your ire rather than Boris Johnson?

Yes Starmer should say more, I fully agree with you there. But it doesn't matter if he says nothing or if he promises to pay everyone's energy bills for the next year out of his own pocket - he can't do anything about it.

Meanwhile the man who can actually do something about it.... is silent and too busy trying to keep his Russian links out the news and trying to quieten stories of him breaking the law.
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You’re missing the point again…..

All we’ve been told is ‘finally an effective opposition’ and all that bollocks. This is literally the biggest and widest open goal of all time - grab the opportunity, champion nationalisation of energy companies which is hugely popular across the political spectrum, and fight tooth and nail to try and get the Government to do something about this crisis. He’s said virtually fuck all and when he does speak he produces the mealy-mouthed bollocks he did today.
He either lacks the political skill and acumen, or he doesn’t give a fuck. Problem is I’m not sure which one it is.
Corbyn would have been tearing this Government apart on every airwave on every day and every chance he had to raise it.
Boris and his government have buckled under bad press nearly every single time.
 
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Ian1779 said:
You’re missing the point again…..

All we’ve been told is ‘finally an effective opposition’ and all that bollocks. This is literally the biggest and widest open goal of all time - grab the opportunity, champion nationalisation of energy companies which is hugely popular across the political spectrum, and fight tooth and nail to try and get the Government to do something about this crisis. He’s said virtually fuck all and when he does speak he produces the mealy-mouthed bollocks he did today.
He either lacks the political skill and acumen, or he doesn’t give a fuck. Problem is I’m not sure which one it is.
Corbyn would have been tearing this Government apart on every airwave on every day and every chance he had to raise it.
Boris and his government have buckled under bad press nearly every single time.
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And yet all Corbyn could muster was an 80 seat majority to the Tories.

He's one of the main reasons we're in this mess. I know you won't like that, but it's true.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Ian1779 said:
You’re missing the point again…..

All we’ve been told is ‘finally an effective opposition’ and all that bollocks. This is literally the biggest and widest open goal of all time - grab the opportunity, champion nationalisation of energy companies which is hugely popular across the political spectrum, and fight tooth and nail to try and get the Government to do something about this crisis. He’s said virtually fuck all and when he does speak he produces the mealy-mouthed bollocks he did today.
He either lacks the political skill and acumen, or he doesn’t give a fuck. Problem is I’m not sure which one it is.
Corbyn would have been tearing this Government apart on every airwave on every day and every chance he had to raise it.
Boris and his government have buckled under bad press nearly every single time.
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I think it's more political acumen than not giving a shit. He seems scared to say anything for fear of alienating anyone. Whether that's due to advisors or his own nature I'm not sure - probably a bit of both.
 
Grendel

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PVA said:
And yet all Corbyn could muster was an 80 seat majority to the Tories.

He's one of the main reasons we're in this mess. I know you won't like that, but it's true.
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Corbyn did gain the biggest share of tbd vote since Blair in his prime.

The one reason the majority was so large (and without the Brexit party would have been worse - Coventry would have two Tory M.Ps) was some out of touch twat with a dumbass Brexit policy

can’t remember his name
 
shmmeee

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Ian1779 said:
Starmer can’t even muster the energy to defend poor people from having their power cut off. He is the most useless bastard at the worst possible time.
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Hard left hard right
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The real problem with a decade of Tory rule is Labour
 
shmmeee

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Grendel said:
Corbyn did gain the biggest share of tbd vote since Blair in his prime.

The one reason the majority was so large (and without the Brexit party would have been worse - Coventry would have two Tory M.Ps) was some out of touch twat with a dumbass Brexit policy

can’t remember his name
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Hard left Hard right
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Mental statistics entirely unrelated to how elections are won to justify Corbyns piss poor performance
 
Grendel

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shmmeee said:
Hard left Hard right
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Mental statistics entirely unrelated to how elections are won to justify Corbyns piss poor performance
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it was piss poor but most of those seats would never have gone Tory if the Brexit policy was to honour the referendum

Starmer will trip himself up again over this again before the next election
 
Ian1779

Ian1779

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PVA said:
And yet all Corbyn could muster was an 80 seat majority to the Tories.

He's one of the main reasons we're in this mess. I know you won't like that, but it's true.
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If Labour had seen Brexit through they probably would have still lost. But it would have been much much closer. Trying to obstruct democracy is awfully good at losing you votes.
 
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