This Summer (8 Viewers)

[CCFCSteve]

My gripe comes from the fact we never utilise the out of contract market much at all compared to other clubs.

There are always some solid players for this league knocking around that have expired yet we seem to spend a fee. Yes i know wages are usually high, but unless I'm being thick surely getting in 4 or 5 decent proven out of contract players is better than squirting money having a punt at the likes of Dacosta, Hillsner etc?

I mean look at these below that are out of contract this summer that could be achievable and improve us massively


Jed Wallace LWB
Alfie Mawson CB
Kristian Pedersen LB
Will Vaulks CM
Ben Osborn CM
Joe Rothwell CM
Harry Toffollo LWB
Tom Barkhuizen CAM
Yoann Barbet CB
Tom Lockyer CB
Reece Burke CB
Callum Elder LWB
Marlon Pack CM



And they're only the ones i think we could realistically get in wage wise, the list is 4 times longer

Our biggest mistake last window was was turning down Scott Twine and Jamie Paterson and taking a punt on the prick that is Bright, and a has been in Waghorn

Id wager if we had got them 2 in and not the latter we would be sitting pretty in the top 6

I’m guessing it will come down to wages. Agents will be pushing higher wages/longer contracts as no transfer fee involved, waghorn being a prime example. We got Bidwell in and Kane for nominal in similarish circumstances ie both nearing end of contracts. I’d imagine unless there’s a couple of player sales inc a big one that’ll be a the market we’re shopping in

 

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[Sky Blue Harry H]

He has had a couple of injuries this season, but on a free transfer (?) I think Tahith Chong, on loan at Blues, is a very interesting player. I would have thought he would be happier coming to play for us than at Blues (wages talk, though) Man U have confirmed he can leave.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

My gripe comes from the fact we never utilise the out of contract market much at all compared to other clubs.

There are always some solid players for this league knocking around that have expired yet we seem to spend a fee. Yes i know wages are usually high, but unless I'm being thick surely getting in 4 or 5 decent proven out of contract players is better than squirting money having a punt at the likes of Dacosta, Hillsner etc?

I mean look at these below that are out of contract this summer that could be achievable and improve us massively


Jed Wallace LWB
Alfie Mawson CB
Kristian Pedersen LB
Will Vaulks CM
Ben Osborn CM
Joe Rothwell CM
Harry Toffollo LWB
Tom Barkhuizen CAM
Yoann Barbet CB
Tom Lockyer CB
Reece Burke CB
Callum Elder LWB
Marlon Pack CM



And they're only the ones i think we could realistically get in wage wise, the list is 4 times longer

Our biggest mistake last window was was turning down Scott Twine and Jamie Paterson and taking a punt on the prick that is Bright, and a has been in Waghorn

Id wager if we had got them 2 in and not the latter we would be sitting pretty in the top 6

Joe Rothwell zero chance. Pederson no and would be difficult to sign anyway. Jed Wallace isn't a wing back and again zero chance. Toffolo has a one-year extension at Huddersfield which will probably be triggered.

Alfie Mawson's injury history is poor and his wages still likely far out of reach.

Pretty sure Luton didn't sign Burke on a 1 year deal, nor Lockyer on a 2 year deal.

If Sheff U fail at promotion this season then I suspect Osborn will be given another deal as he's played quite a few games for them this season - I don't think he's much better than what we have anyway though. Have liked the look of Vaulks previously but again not really better than what we have.

I'd avoid Pack like the plague due to his age. He hasn't performed well this season either.

The only one I'd perhaps take a look at is Barkhuizen. Can't say I know much about Barbet and Elder.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Luton is an interesting one, if you look at Transfermrkt a lot of their players are allegedly out of contract this season, have they potentially had a 1 year crack at getting out of the division and spent money they potentially didn’t have?

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Luton is an interesting one, if you look at Transfermrkt a lot of their players are allegedly out of contract this season, have they potentially had a 1 year crack at getting out of the division and spent money they potentially didn’t have?

I mean their wage bill is only slightly larger then ours

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Luton is an interesting one, if you look at Transfermrkt a lot of their players are allegedly out of contract this season, have they potentially had a 1 year crack at getting out of the division and spent money they potentially didn’t have?

I don't think Luton disclose the contract lengths of their players so as per the norm Transfermrkt just guess.

 

[Frostie]

Joe Rothwell zero chance. Pederson no and would be difficult to sign anyway. Jed Wallace isn't a wing back and again zero chance. Toffolo has a one-year extension at Huddersfield which will probably be triggered.

Alfie Mawson's injury history is poor and his wages still likely far out of reach.

Pretty sure Luton didn't sign Burke on a 1 year deal, nor Lockyer on a 2 year deal.

If Sheff U fail at promotion this season then I suspect Osborn will be given another deal as he's played quite a few games for them this season - I don't think he's much better than what we have anyway though. Have liked the look of Vaulks previously but again not really better than what we have.

I'd avoid Pack like the plague due to his age. He hasn't performed well this season either.

The only one I'd perhaps take a look at Barkhuizen. Can't say I know much about Barbet and Elder.

Barbet is very good, LCB, plays every available minute for QPR. Will sign a new deal there or go to a bigger/richer club.

Barkhuizen has had huge injury problems, only played 13 times & none since January.

re: Luton, I'd suspect those contracts are guesswork or contain extensions. They are always very coy about disclosing contract length.

 

[SBAndy]

Luton is an interesting one, if you look at Transfermrkt a lot of their players are allegedly out of contract this season, have they potentially had a 1 year crack at getting out of the division and spent money they potentially didn’t have?

Luton don’t announce the length of contracts for some reason, so I’d imagine it’s guesswork on behalf of TransferMarkt.

 

[SkyblueDad]

We have a certain brand of football so Robins will sign players with that in mind and probably already has a wish list. Wages this season will be interesting throughout the division lots of clubs in debt and saddled with high earners, I think a lot of wage bills will start levelling out and new contracts nowhere near what they have been.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Barbet is very good, LCB, plays every available minute for QPR. Will sign a new deal there or go to a bigger/richer club.

Barkhuizen has had huge injury problems, only played 13 times & none since January.

re: Luton, I'd suspect those contracts are guesswork or contain extensions. They are always very coy about disclosing contract length.

I don't think Barkhuizen does have injury problems per say, I think he's just been horribly unlucky this season. That being said I still wouldn't be overly happy if we signed him.

Yeah as I've just said I'm fairly sure Luton don't disclose the contract lengths of their players.

 

[no_loyalty]

A couple of players who are out of contract in the summer who I would like us to go for are Freddie Ladapo and Ravel Morrison.

 

[Grendel]

We need better defenders - the problem is we are almost resigned to losing our star striker

I honestly can’t see clubs at premier level wanting Hamer but if a lower end club like I dunno Southampton expressed an interest then sell him and get some established championship centre halves.

We are never deviating from a back 3 and we need at least one if not two experienced centre halves at this level. You’d then have a pretty experienced back line and wing backs.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Luton don’t announce the length of contracts for some reason, so I’d imagine it’s guesswork on behalf of TransferMarkt.

That would explain that. I thought it was really odd

 

[Frankly_Mr_Shankly]

We need better defenders - the problem is we are almost resigned to losing our star striker

I honestly can’t see clubs at premier level wanting Hamer but if a lower end club like I dunno Southampton expressed an interest then sell him and get some established championship centre halves.

We are never deviating from a back 3 and we need at least one if not two experienced centre halves at this level. You’d then have a pretty experienced back line and wing backs.

Where’s the bid swede on our side going then??

 

[SkyblueDad]

We need better defenders - the problem is we are almost resigned to losing our star striker

You might be I’m not, eventually probably but not yet.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Where’s the bid swede on our side going then??

If Burnley came down, they would lose Weghorst and I dont doubt they'd be interested in Gyo as a replacement. He totally fits the bill.

 

[Frostie]

We need better defenders - the problem is we are almost resigned to losing our star striker

I honestly can’t see clubs at premier level wanting Hamer but if a lower end club like I dunno Southampton expressed an interest then sell him and get some established championship centre halves.

We are never deviating from a back 3 and we need at least one if not two experienced centre halves at this level. You’d then have a pretty experienced back line and wing backs.

Agreed but on the experience thing, I think we'll likely sign younger up & comers. CBs who excel on the ball as well as having a lot of Championship experience will likely be very costly.
There's some very good young CBs in League One ready to step up, it's about getting the blend right.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Agreed but on the experience thing, I think we'll likely sign younger up & comers. CBs who excel on the ball as well as having a lot of Championship experience will likely be very costly.
There's some very good young CBs in League One ready to step up, it's about getting the blend right.

With other Championship clubs fishing in these markets as well, prospects from League One will come at a pretty sizeable cost transfer fee-wise, which under the current operation is an area we'll always struggle to compete in.

I suspect we'll more likely look again to Premier League clubs and pick up unwanted young players - i.e. as we have done with Gyokeres, Sheaf, O'Hare, Dabo etc - as it's an area where we've probably found the most success.

 

[Skybluedownunder]

My gripe comes from the fact we never utilise the out of contract market much at all compared to other clubs.

There are always some solid players for this league knocking around that have expired yet we seem to spend a fee. Yes i know wages are usually high, but unless I'm being thick surely getting in 4 or 5 decent proven out of contract players is better than squirting money having a punt at the likes of Dacosta, Hillsner etc?

I mean look at these below that are out of contract this summer that could be achievable and improve us massively


Jed Wallace LWB
Alfie Mawson CB
Kristian Pedersen LB
Will Vaulks CM
Ben Osborn CM
Joe Rothwell CM
Harry Toffollo LWB
Tom Barkhuizen CAM
Yoann Barbet CB
Tom Lockyer CB
Reece Burke CB
Callum Elder LWB
Marlon Pack CM



And they're only the ones i think we could realistically get in wage wise, the list is 4 times longer

Our biggest mistake last window was was turning down Scott Twine and Jamie Paterson and taking a punt on the prick that is Bright, and a has been in Waghorn

Id wager if we had got them 2 in and not the latter we would be sitting pretty in the top 6

We turned down Scott Twine? I hadn’t heard that before. He would have been great, what was our reason?


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[Ccfcisparks]

We turned down Scott Twine? I hadn’t heard that before. He would have been great, what was our reason?


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Its not true

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

My gripe comes from the fact we never utilise the out of contract market much at all compared to other clubs.

There are always some solid players for this league knocking around that have expired yet we seem to spend a fee. Yes i know wages are usually high, but unless I'm being thick surely getting in 4 or 5 decent proven out of contract players is better than squirting money having a punt at the likes of Dacosta, Hillsner etc?

I mean look at these below that are out of contract this summer that could be achievable and improve us massively


Jed Wallace LWB
Alfie Mawson CB
Kristian Pedersen LB
Will Vaulks CM
Ben Osborn CM
Joe Rothwell CM
Harry Toffollo LWB
Tom Barkhuizen CAM
Yoann Barbet CB
Tom Lockyer CB
Reece Burke CB
Callum Elder LWB
Marlon Pack CM



And they're only the ones i think we could realistically get in wage wise, the list is 4 times longer

Our biggest mistake last window was was turning down Scott Twine and Jamie Paterson and taking a punt on the prick that is Bright, and a has been in Waghorn

Id wager if we had got them 2 in and not the latter we would be sitting pretty in the top 6

I would sign Wallace as a midfield partner to O’hare

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I would sign Wallace as a midfield partner to O’hare

He would not come to us. He was rumoured to be going to besiktas

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Joe Rothwell zero chance. Pederson no and would be difficult to sign anyway. Jed Wallace isn't a wing back and again zero chance. Toffolo has a one-year extension at Huddersfield which will probably be triggered.

Alfie Mawson's injury history is poor and his wages still likely far out of reach.

Pretty sure Luton didn't sign Burke on a 1 year deal, nor Lockyer on a 2 year deal.

If Sheff U fail at promotion this season then I suspect Osborn will be given another deal as he's played quite a few games for them this season - I don't think he's much better than what we have anyway though. Have liked the look of Vaulks previously but again not really better than what we have.

I'd avoid Pack like the plague due to his age. He hasn't performed well this season either.

The only one I'd perhaps take a look at is Barkhuizen. Can't say I know much about Barbet and Elder.

QPR fans rave about Barbet or at least the ones Ive spoke to

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

A couple of players who are out of contract in the summer who I would like us to go for are Freddie Ladapo and Ravel Morrison.

Ladapo would be a nice pick up

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

He would not come to us. He was rumoured to be going to besiktas

I know there is no chance I was just stating I would sign him as an AM rather than LWB

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

I know there is no chance I was just stating I would sign him as an AM rather than LWB

Well obviously because he’s never played left wing back before

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

I think the players I would have a look at are:

Clarke-Salter
Rinomotta - CM
Lee Buchanan - LWB
Kipré - CB
Tudor Baluta - CM
Josh Laurent - CM
Josh Murphy - AM/Winger
Robby Brady - Utility
Barbet - CB
Mpanzu - CM
Berahino - CF
A’mari Bell - LWB
Nathan Byrne - RWB
Basham - CB
Sinani - AM
Honeyman - AM
Musonda - AM/CF
Murray Wallace - CB
Bowler - Winger (Im sure we could try him AM)
Cornick - ST
Grabban - ST
Romal Palmer - CM
Mallik Wilks - AM
Onyadinma - AM
Luke Berry - CM

Feel free to talk shit on them

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Well obviously because he’s never played left wing back before

I never said he did it was the poster I quoted originally

 

[mr_monkey]

We turned down Scott Twine? I hadn’t heard that before. He would have been great, what was our reason?


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It's utter nonsense as is the Paterson stuff

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

It's utter nonsense as is the Paterson stuff

I think it was probably his agent trying to get a move, at the time it did seem a but of a strange one but hindsight shows that it would have been a good move

 

[shmmeee]

So hard keeping track of who is ITK and who just talks bollocks confidently. This is what we really need Grendels spreadsheet to track.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I think it was probably his agent trying to get a move, at the time it did seem a but of a strange one but hindsight shows that it would have been a good move

Pretty sure we made Paterson an offer

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Pretty sure we made Paterson an offer

Not Patterson, Im talking about Twine

 

[Saddlebrains]

We turned down Scott Twine? I hadn’t heard that before. He would have been great, what was our reason?


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Was well known mate, we plumped for Bright instead for some fucking reason

 

[Frostie]

I think the players I would have a look at are:

Clarke-Salter
Rinomotta - CM
Lee Buchanan - LWB
Kipré - CB
Tudor Baluta - CM
Josh Laurent - CM
Josh Murphy - AM/Winger
Robby Brady - Utility
Barbet - CB
Mpanzu - CM
Berahino - CF
A’mari Bell - LWB
Nathan Byrne - RWB
Basham - CB
Sinani - AM
Honeyman - AM
Musonda - AM/CF
Murray Wallace - CB
Bowler - Winger (Im sure we could try him AM)
Cornick - ST
Grabban - ST
Romal Palmer - CM
Mallik Wilks - AM
Onyadinma - AM
Luke Berry - CM

Feel free to talk shit on them

Would be a massive squad