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CCFCSteve

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skybluetony176 said:
4 biggest energy companies come together to say that the government should be doing more to help people with their bills.

You know it’s bad when the greedy energy companies are saying that the government aren’t doing enough.
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Yeah, I’d be shocked if more assistance isn’t on the way, guessing in autumn when they know likely winter fuel situation

I still think the easiest thing to do in the meantime is bring back the temp £20 UC uplift whilst inflation remains high
 
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On the one hand she's telling us what a deterrent this will be, and on the other hand she's telling us what a wonderful place Rwanda is.
 
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PVA

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I really, really hope this isn't true. Beyond disgusting if it is, but about right for that evil witch Patel.


"The call handler said he had noticed a "pattern" over the last week and a half, which appeared to show young children's visas going missing or being withheld.

"Maybe you have a mother and two children, what seems to happen is two of the three applications will be given permission to travel and then the last one - which is predominantly and often the youngest child - seems to go missing or withheld," he said.

"It seems to me to be a way of the Government saying, 'Well we've issued visas’, knowing that they won't leave their youngest child, so they won't travel. I think you've got to be pretty callous to do that."


www.lbc.co.uk

Govt Homes for Ukraine helpline giving 'false information' as 'pattern' emerges over 'lost visas'

Traumatised refugees are being given false information about the status of their visa application, a Homes for Ukraine helpline worker has claimed.
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PVA

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He's up and he's using innocent Ukrainian civilians as a human shield for his law breaking.

Shameless c**t.

You just know he's genuinely thankful for this war.
 
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stupot07

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Starmer did a good response there.

Johnsons only retort is about Corbyn, then goes on about Ukraine.

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PVA

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Absolutely brilliant from Starmer. Tore Johnson and his acolytes a new one.

Imagine looking at those two performances and thinking 'yeah Johnson is my guy'.
 
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CCFCSteve said:
Agreed. They know more fines are probably on the way !
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Fines are so 2021, it's all about Ukraine now, and the fact only Johnson can oversea from a polite distance the country being battered by enemy artillery.
 
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CCFCSteve

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Fines are so 2021, it's all about Ukraine now, and the fact only Johnson can oversea from a polite distance the country being battered by enemy artillery.
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Haha, to be fair, if this was a one off I’d actually have some sympathy with that argument….I know many won’t. Unfortunately I don’t think it will be.

The fines themselves aren’t necessarily the major issue for Johnson but his argument he didn’t lie to parliament about rules being broken falls apart if there’s several
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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skybluetony176 said:
4 biggest energy companies come together to say that the government should be doing more to help people with their bills.

You know it’s bad when the greedy energy companies are saying that the government aren’t doing enough.
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Although it's true they could look closer to home and take a hit on their huge profits.

One of the things a government might do to consider helping people with their bills is not leave in the grubby hands of greedy private enterprise...
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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jimmyhillsfanclub said:
I've recently been revisiting essays by Orwell and chomsky.....and its still the same as it ever was.

...so any of you still getting your Twitter kickers in a twist on a daily basis over petty infringements by no-mark actors in the side show that is domestic politics need to take a step back to focus....
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Perhaps the reason the same shit is still happening years later is that those that commit the infringements are never properly held to account and so it carries on happening. Seems to be increasing all the time lately and just by coincidence it's also the same time when we've been letting the fuckers get away with pretty much anything.

So how about suggesting we hold these people to a high standard and make sure they pay the consequences if they don't reach it?
 
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CCFCSteve said:
It’s how you want to present the stats though PVA. I look at the cumulative of the ‘Covid years’ together with projections as countries had waves at different times and therefore recoveries will happen at different times. For example Spain was still -5.7% after 2020 and 2021 so I would expect them to grow faster this year and next compared to us (-1.9%) and France (-1%).

I take the point that Johnson should be careful with his boasts (there’s no need !) but think he was basing on actual rather than forecasts… although was maybe being a little loose with the full picture truth…standard !

I can understand lower growth if it’s due to us being consumer driven economy in a high inflation period. What doesn’t quite make sense is why inflation wouldn’t remain higher and have a greater impact here than, in say Germany*, if they truly are weening themselves off Russian oil and gas ?! As they’re a high manufacturing intensive economy, in what is a high energy cost period, I’d be surprised if they’re not hit harder than forecast but a lot depends on Russian/Ukraine I guess

Edit - just heard guy from IMF saying Germany already revised down 1.7% since Jan so maybe already taken into consideration
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Eyeballing those figures the big gains seem linked to big losses in 2020 and visa versa. I’m not sure they tell us much other than it takes about three years to recover to pre covid levels for most countries.
 
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