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long way home
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MR will see all the stats and I'm sure will address the weak points within the squad. The defensive unit seems to have some issues, individually they look ok but show inconsistency as a unit and as individuals. From what I've seen they lack organizations, vocal leadership and in someways the attitude to be tough when we are backed up.
You have to pay for these types of player and we need 2. Hyam and Rose are very capable but at this point most see weaknesses, we have to build on clean sheets as we are very capable of creating and scoring chances. As a team if you can't keep the ball out you feel more pressure to score the chances you have to get the right result.
So MR needs to improve this area and invest in a couple of older heads who love to defend and be vocal is getting those around them to understand a role within the unit.
You have to pay for these types of player and we need 2. Hyam and Rose are very capable but at this point most see weaknesses, we have to build on clean sheets as we are very capable of creating and scoring chances. As a team if you can't keep the ball out you feel more pressure to score the chances you have to get the right result.
So MR needs to improve this area and invest in a couple of older heads who love to defend and be vocal is getting those around them to understand a role within the unit.
SBAndy
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Who could we target at CB then? Like the feel of Michal Helik from Barnsley and could very much suit the central role. Beyond that, would it prove too rich for us to be going after some of the decent L1 centre backs? Oxford always seem to have a quality CB and this year it’s Luke McNally but I think we’d be struggling to get someone like him in!
long way home
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It's going to be tough because MR wants a footballing CBs and I don't think he moves away from that. But results have shown us that sometimes you need to dig in, fight for the second ball and be willing to shout and organize players around you that are caught watching.
It's an art and comes at a cost in money and in sacrifices on a ethos on how you see the game played. If we don't get this balance right we will forever be in the same situation where we will beat most teams by creating a lot of chances but lose to smarter teams that sit in and takes opportunities within a game.
I'm sure they are some about and if we can generate money through transfer fees, releasing players and additional income with. ST sales. Then we can compete to pay the extra we need to secure the better quality player. It will make a difference if we can bring in players that take pride in clean sheets, have the ability to focus and keep all around them solid for the whole game. They need to create a attitude, we have created it with the ball, now we need to create it without, it's costs but the balance of that type takes you to the next level.
It's an art and comes at a cost in money and in sacrifices on a ethos on how you see the game played. If we don't get this balance right we will forever be in the same situation where we will beat most teams by creating a lot of chances but lose to smarter teams that sit in and takes opportunities within a game.
I'm sure they are some about and if we can generate money through transfer fees, releasing players and additional income with. ST sales. Then we can compete to pay the extra we need to secure the better quality player. It will make a difference if we can bring in players that take pride in clean sheets, have the ability to focus and keep all around them solid for the whole game. They need to create a attitude, we have created it with the ball, now we need to create it without, it's costs but the balance of that type takes you to the next level.
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Frostie
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The X-Axis on that graphic is how often he makes progressive passes (& runs) though rather than his success. Tells a lot more about style of play of both team & individual than ability really.
I think it's overplayed a little that Hyam can't pass, he has improved no end in this regard, but his pass accuracy (and aerial duel success) is the lowest of our 4 main CB's but then, as evidenced, some of that will be down to him playing more progressively than Fadz for example.
Saddlebrains
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shmmeee
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I think a lot of it is down to role in the team. Fadz gets forwards less and tends to pass side to side so comes out worse.
Looking solely at pass accuracy and saying he's the worst passer is a bit disingenuous though. There's more to it than that.
He's only 1.44% less accurate than the next worse. Given he attempts 58.6 passes per game that means he misplaces 0.8 passes per game more than JCS, i.e. nothing really.
He completes more passes in the opposition half than any of the other 3.
Only JCS makes more forward passes than him.
Looking at the stats I'd say JCS has the worst passing stats of them all, but they're all pretty similar really.
Frostie
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It would be a little disingenuous agreed, which is exactly why I didn't say it. I was just providing context.
They're all pretty good in fairness. The frustration I think some have with Hyam, & for me even more so with Rose, is inconsistency - they can go from playing some incredible progressive passes to misplacing really simple ones.
shmmeee
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Rose on his day is next level with his distribution, he can really pick a good pass into the midfield and we’re a lot less predictable out of defence when he’s doing it. JCS as well with his drives out of defence and his pass selection.
I do still hold out hope for Rose, but he’s been very poor in his recent spell and had a couple of mares.
I do still hold out hope for Rose, but he’s been very poor in his recent spell and had a couple of mares.
Frostie
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Totally agree. On paper Rose has everything you would want but since promotion he's never managed to put a consistent run of good form together.
A lot of the time he's been disrupted by injury of course but now, without real competition for his place these last few games, this is the time he really needs to step up.
But this is where you are so wrong. We have 4 players who have played the most minutes in the top 75. Huddersfield have 6, Blackburn 5, Middlesbrough 5, Forest 5 all who are above us.
SkyblueDad
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SlowerThanPlatt
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He will probably be available as he’s done nothing to enhance his credentials for the Brighton team this season
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I'd be looking at other options as well, but I think we could do worse. Certainly as a younger replacement for the Fadz role. Would likely have a half decent chance of getting him too, assuming his ego can accept he's not about to be fought over by the top European teams.
larry_david
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Coventry City, Middlesbrough and West Brom want Newcastle United ace Elliot Anderson
Coventry City, Middlesbrough and West Brom have joined the race to sign Newcastle United's Elliot Anderson this summer, as per TEAMtalk.
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larry_david
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Barton described this guy as the best young player he's ever worked with.
SkyblueDad
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I think his attachment to Brighton ends at the end of this season so he should be a freebie.
The thing is they are investors throwing some cash at the club and hoping for promotion is more like gambling.
Grendel
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Which is what high risk speculators are all about surely
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As we know however, when such an approach failed it led to years of pain.
Given who owns us, I'd rather we didn't do that again!
You’d think so to some extent at least. It depends how SISU are set up and what kind of returns they are promising I guess.
cc84cov
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O’Hare replacementCoventry City, Middlesbrough and West Brom want Newcastle United ace Elliot Anderson
Coventry City, Middlesbrough and West Brom have joined the race to sign Newcastle United's Elliot Anderson this summer, as per TEAMtalk.
WGABSOOS
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Or competition which we don't haveO’Hare replacement
So just because we’ve used the fewest amount of players our player are mote tired than others. That all depends on how many minutes each player has played surely, just because you have used less players it doesn’t mean they are more tired.
At what stage do players fall into the “tired” category? It would be reasonable to assume we’ll above 50% of minutes available to play given they are professional athletes? At 65% of available minutes we’ve had 8 players who have completed that, 5 teams have had more and both Derby and Bournemouth have had 14. That suggests 65% is too low. Let’s then assume you become tired at 80% which is most probably a more realistic figure. We’ve had 4 players hit that figure the same as 6 other teams in the league but less than 5 others.
Using those statistics is far more accurate than saying we’ve used 25 players and Birmingham used 35 so all our players are more tired than anyone else.
So your using 1 meaningless statistic to try and defend yours. I’m just pointing out that there are a variety of ways you can assess tiredness. If you look at the teams that have most of their players playing around the 80% mark they tend to be towards the top of the division. For example Bournemouth, Forest, Huddersfield, Middlesbrough. A consistent team tends to perform better.
Yes I’ve no doubt some of our players are tired but no more so than most teams
If your looking at players used Millwall have used 1 player more and are above us. QPR have used 2 more Huddersfield 2 more.
shmmeee
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I disagree. I think we hit a wall and have lost players for longer because of playing them too long or coming back earlier. Maybe QPR and Huddersfield have too, I wouldn’t know I’m not a fan. But I think for a team like ours with little quality past the first XI and players playing at their maximum it was a limiting factor. The stat just backs that thought up, it’s not the catalyst for it.
Tea & Busquets
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McNally is apparently catching the eyes of premier league clubs. If I were to go League One, I like the looks of Jack Tucker, Ross Sykes. Warren O'Hora and Harry Darling.