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Advie

Advie

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Nah, I doubt it. He's worked out you don't need to be at the top to get what you want.
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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fernandopartridge said:
What a silly country this is. We're in a massive economic slump with the standard of living of many on the decline if not putting them into genuine poverty, but the thing that brings down the Prime Minister and the media's focus is on breaching some restrictions (such as being able to work with somebody but not socialise with them) which were and are ridiculous.

This is not to say by any means I don't accept that Johnson should go and what he did was wrong, it just feels pretty immaterial to me now (though I'm fortunate to not have been somebody who couldn't attend a loved ones funeral etc).

I'd be suspicious of Baker and the ERG loons, gawd knows who they have got lined up next....
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you take the wins you can get
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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The “we’ve got things to get on with like dealing with the cost of living” line isn’t standing up. Hot of the press from yesterday’s news that even the four big energy supplier’s are saying that the government aren’t doing enough to help with the cost of living it’s being reported that the government’s own work group tasked with dealing with the cost of living hasn’t met in 6 months.
 
stupot07

stupot07

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skybluetony176 said:
The “we’ve got things to get on with like dealing with the cost of living” line isn’t standing up. Hot of the press from yesterday’s news that even the four big energy supplier’s are saying that the government aren’t doing enough to help with the cost of living it’s being reported that the government’s own work group tasked with dealing with the cost of living hasn’t met in 6 months.
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I know, they've just had an opportunity to deal with it and failed in the Spring statement just a few weeks ago.

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shmmeee

shmmeee

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skybluetony176 said:
The “we’ve got things to get on with like dealing with the cost of living” line isn’t standing up. Hot of the press from yesterday’s news that even the four big energy supplier’s are saying that the government aren’t doing enough to help with the cost of living it’s being reported that the government’s own work group tasked with dealing with the cost of living hasn’t met in 6 months.
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Last time it was Covid or Brexit. Genius tactics to have a PM who lurches from one crisis to another so can never be removed because we’re always in the middle of a crisis.
 
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PVA

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shmmeee said:
Last time it was Covid or Brexit. Genius tactics to have a PM who lurches from one crisis to another so can never be removed because we’re always in the middle of a crisis.
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Don't forget the war!

Boris is on the front lines don't you know so we can't criticise him while there's a war going on (that we're not involved in).
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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skybluetony176 said:
The “we’ve got things to get on with like dealing with the cost of living” line isn’t standing up. Hot of the press from yesterday’s news that even the four big energy supplier’s are saying that the government aren’t doing enough to help with the cost of living it’s being reported that the government’s own work group tasked with dealing with the cost of living hasn’t met in 6 months.
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The big 4 saying that actually there isn't a market for utilities at all
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Tommo1993 said:
How can you constantly break the ministerial code (as PM!!) and not resign?
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"You've broken the ministerial code - you should resign!"
"What says I should resign?"
"The ministerial code"
"So the thing I've already broken is the thing that tells me to resign?"
"Yes"
"Well, as I already ignored it I think I'll just ignore it again, thank you very much"
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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fernandopartridge said:
What a silly country this is. We're in a massive economic slump with the standard of living of many on the decline if not putting them into genuine poverty, but the thing that brings down the Prime Minister and the media's focus is on breaching some restrictions (such as being able to work with somebody but not socialise with them) which were and are ridiculous.

This is not to say by any means I don't accept that Johnson should go and what he did was wrong, it just feels pretty immaterial to me now (though I'm fortunate to not have been somebody who couldn't attend a loved ones funeral etc).

I'd be suspicious of Baker and the ERG loons, gawd knows who they have got lined up next....
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I agree that in the grand scheme of things he's got a rap sheet of worse things longer than your arm, but as seems to be the way it's the smaller things that stick

*though I'm uncomfortable using the word smaller as it won't seem small to those who were unable to say goodbye to loved ones etc due to the restrictions he ignored.
 
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PVA

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But they're getting on with the job and doing everything they can to ease the cost of living crisis.

Cunts.


"The government’s working group to address the cost living has not met for six months despite surging energy prices, The Independent has learned.

The inter-ministerial group on the cost of living last met in early November 2021 but has since ground to a complete halt with no meetings held since the beginning of the Partygate scandal."


www.independent.co.uk

Government’s cost of living work group has not met for six months

Ministers have not held a meeting of the body since the start of the Partygate scandal
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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This is bollocks also. We have an agreement with India called a Generalised System of Preference which is basically a free trade deal. No doubt it will be a Brexit “bonus” when the reality is the GSP was a rollover arrangement from the EU so we had it anyway.

 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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I’ll just make the point again. Sunak ruled out a windfall tax on energy companies to use to offset the energy price cap like most European countries because it would stifle investment. He never clarified investment in what but some clever sod on here (me) pointed out that it would stifle spend on the high street at the cost of this unspecified investment.

In unrelated news the excellent Dan Hodges



The country is spiralling uncontrollably.
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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skybluetony176 said:
I’ll just make the point again. Sunak ruled out a windfall tax on energy companies to use to offset the energy price cap like most European countries because it would stifle investment. He never clarified investment in what but some clever sod on here (me) pointed out that it would stifle spend on the high street at the cost of this unspecified investment.

In unrelated news the excellent Dan Hodges



The country is spiralling uncontrollably.
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Yeah, but fucking off to India on the pretence of a trqde deal helped him escape the flak and meet up with his fellow right wing dog whistler, a grade A pair of wankers.
 
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PVA

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The 'It's only a birthday cake' and 'he was only there for 9 minutes' arguments will look pretty stupid when he gets fined for attending a cheese and wine party.


 
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CCFCSteve

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PVA said:
The 'It's only a birthday cake' and 'he was only there for 9 minutes' arguments will look pretty stupid when he gets fined for attending a cheese and wine party.


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This was always going to be the issue for Johnson. The birthday one as a stand-alone breach might not have caused lasting damage. Others will do, especially this one if it’s ever proven that he knew about it in advance and the ‘Abba party’ in November. As mentioned, the whole lying to the House will come far more into play as well.
 
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CCFCSteve

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skybluetony176 said:
I’ll just make the point again. Sunak ruled out a windfall tax on energy companies to use to offset the energy price cap like most European countries because it would stifle investment. He never clarified investment in what but some clever sod on here (me) pointed out that it would stifle spend on the high street at the cost of this unspecified investment.

In unrelated news the excellent Dan Hodges



The country is spiralling uncontrollably.
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I’d imagine the UK and some of EU will probably either go into recession or close to it by some point next year (America might be a bit later). You cannot print 100s of billions and in americas case trillions and not expect some consequences with regard to inflation…especially when added to pent up post Covid demand. The Western world appears to now be reliant on QE and ridiculously low interest rates so as soon the printing stops/balance sheets start to unwind and rates are increased even a bit, the whole system creaks. Add to that energy inflation and some foods, due to the war and unfortunately there will be some trouble ahead as we all try, and possibly fail, to ween ourselves off it

The government can’t help everyone but as I’ve said, at least get the uplift in UC back in asap. Extra assistance with energy will come before winter

Happy Friday (sorry)
 
Grendel

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Is the French election the post pointless thing ever. Supporters can’t stand macron or le penn and the least right wing version wins
 
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