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[MalcSB]

Forgive me for thinking your commitment to communitarian ideals was never that strong if the loss of a £300 payment was enough for you to abandon them entirely.

As I have said, I personally didn’t need it. It’s the way it was done and a genuine shock that a Labour government would do it that really angered me. Also the enormous anti-boomer sentiment- just turned me right off. There are people on here who have really shifted me politically to the right which I’m sure would t have been their intention.

I contributed massively to the benefit of communities through my job. It’s clear that my age group is abominated by many these days, and I’m sorry, but fuck em. I would be better off not paying taxes, not getting the state pension and paying for my health and eventual social care myself. Of course, I will be paying for the latter anyway, whilst illegal I migrants get put up in hotels etc.

Edit I am self aware enough to recognise that I have basically “lost my shit” over this, but hey ho. I just don’t care,

 

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[SBT]

Also the enormous anti-boomer sentiment- just turned me right off. There are people on here who have really shifted me politically to the right which I’m sure would t have been their intention.

I contributed massively to the benefit of communities through my job. It’s clear that my age group is abominated by many these days, and I’m sorry, but fuck em.

Maybe there’s some kind of lesson here on how aggressively vilifying certain communities is rarely a recipe for helping people assimilate into the social greater good.

 

[Como]

It is nothing new, but always fascinating to watch what they happily chop and more significantly what they do not.

Says it all.

 

[MalcSB]

Civil servants have to attend the office 3 days per week, so they should be paid London weighting allowance. It's a strange thing but my commuting costs buying individual tickets per day (not in London) to go to the office 3 x per week are as expensive as the repayment on an annual season ticket.

People housed in hotels sequestered by the Home Office are asylum seekers. They are not 'illegal immigrants' until the point that they are denied asylum.

As a country we either need to face up to the fact that we, like all other relatively rich western nations, are going to be somewhere that people will try to migrate to/ seek asylum in. As part of that, we need to face up to the fact that we need to create accommodation to house people coming here so the Home Office isn't using "4 star hotels" to do it.

Many civil servants aren’t though. And those that do should get a maximum of 60%.

Many/ most in the hotels have arrived here illegally and then claim asylum. So they are firstly illegal immigrants and then subsequently claim asylum.

 

[MalcSB]

Maybe there’s some kind of lesson here on how aggressively vilifying certain communities is rarely a recipe for helping people assimilate into the social greater good.

May be. But too little too late,

 

[MalcSB]

For me this decision is possibly the most appalling one for a social justice party who are set up to look after the vulnerable and oppressed be that for the worker against the boss or redistribute extreme wealth and poverty

I can’t believe Keir and Rachel have been defending the level. I’d love to have sight of the impact assessment. An easy answer would be set it at the minimum wage level

I’d always assumed that it wasn’t cost effective to give a benefit to some and not to others hence child benefit always being given but then that changed and it’s not given for those paying higher rate

And in any case it must be possible now. So I don’t think all pensioners require this £300 and it’s right not to give government money to people who don’t need it. Part of why I have always been against privatisation and selling businesses that are monopolies.

I can’t believe that my Labour Party can’t see how poor this decision is it’s like Gordon brown removing the lower rate of tax it was madness

Just seen this.

“An internal impact assessment last week revealed that removing the winter fuel allowance from millions of pensioners could push 100,000 more into poverty.”

Edit but at least the millionaires aren’t getting free money!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Just seen this.

“An internal impact assessment last week revealed that removing the winter fuel allowance from millions of pensioners could push 100,000 more into poverty.”

Edit but at least the millionaires aren’t getting free money!

The tories would have done this and reform probably taken it off everyone

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

As I have said, I personally didn’t need it. It’s the way it was done and a genuine shock that a Labour government would do it that really angered me. Also the enormous anti-boomer sentiment- just turned me right off. There are people on here who have really shifted me politically to the right which I’m sure would t have been their intention.

I contributed massively to the benefit of communities through my job. It’s clear that my age group is abominated by many these days, and I’m sorry, but fuck em. I would be better off not paying taxes, not getting the state pension and paying for my health and eventual social care myself. Of course, I will be paying for the latter anyway, whilst illegal I migrants get put up in hotels etc.

Edit I am self aware enough to recognise that I have basically “lost my shit” over this, but hey ho. I just don’t care,

Your rage was nowhere to be seen when young people were sold down the river for 14 years of Tory neglect. The difference is that the WFP withdrawal bothered me as much as that did.

 

[MalcSB]

Your rage was nowhere to be seen when young people were sold down the river for 14 years of Tory neglect. The difference is that the WFP withdrawal bothered me as much as that did.

I’ve already said that basically I was “triggered” recently.

I didn‘t generally follow politics that closely, didn’t have the time. I imagine you have this sort of stuff in mind.

The Tory policy for young people in Britain is victimisation by design | Owen Jones

It is easy for the government to ignore the plight of this generation, but failure to act damages us all

www.theguardian.com

It will all be so much better by 2029

 

[MalcSB]

The tories would have done this and reform probably taken it off everyone

The only way we can have any certainty is to ensure a single term Labour government and see what their successors do.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Many civil servants aren’t though. And those that do should get a maximum of 60%.

Many/ most in the hotels have arrived here illegally and then claim asylum. So they are firstly illegal immigrants and then subsequently claim asylum.

They are mandated to work 3 days in the office, that is a fact.

Yes, you're right actually, it is technically an offence to arrive in the UK without a valid visa, but they're allowed to try to claim asylum.

 

[Grendel]

Your rage was nowhere to be seen when young people were sold down the river for 14 years of Tory neglect. The difference is that the WFP withdrawal bothered me as much as that did.

I personally did rather well in that period - my children are doing ok. One has their own house - first time buyer with combined £70 k deposit - and another has a job and considerable savings.