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wingy

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Ffs she has to maintain a focus when faced with the equivalent of Quasimodo.
Get over over yourself, abortion of a man.
 

shmmeee

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“Some” Tories have allegedly given the Mail on Sunday a story that Angela Rayner has been doing Sharon Stone Basic Instinct leg crossing when Boris is at the dispatch box to put him off. Not even making that up. That is an actual story in the MOS.



Woman in wearing skirt shocker. Absolutely pathetic. Are they in Y9 Maths or the House of Commons?
 

Sick Boy

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“Some” Tories have allegedly given the Mail on Sunday a story that Angela Rayner has been doing Sharon Stone Basic Instinct leg crossing when Boris is at the dispatch box to put him off. Not even making that up. That is an actual story in the MOS.


Fucking hell.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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Especially considering a lot of her domestic and economic policy was very similar to melenchons....

What was the turnout btw?


Turnout was the lowest since 1969......and thats including the 3+ million spoiled/blank protest votes.

A huge chunk of Macrons vote was not any kind of endorsement.....just votes to keep Le Pen out.

Also, this election has highlighted the major flaws of the two-round run-off system, where the 2 nationalist parties polled over 45% compared to Macrons 27%. It then relies on endorsements (or lack of them) for the 2nd round.
A very effective way of alienating about 50% of your electorate.

No wonder the French Press were stating it was "like choosing between Cholera or the plague"
 

PVA

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A huge chunk of Macrons vote was not any kind of endorsement.....just votes to keep Le Pen out.

That's how a lot of elections go though.

Certainly the last general election here - many people voted, depending on which side of they fence they were on, to keep either Johnson or Corbyn out. I know I did.
 

skybluetony176

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Turnout was the lowest since 1969......and thats including the 3+ million spoiled/blank protest votes.

A huge chunk of Macrons vote was not any kind of endorsement.....just votes to keep Le Pen out.

Also, this election has highlighted the major flaws of the two-round run-off system, where the 2 nationalist parties polled over 45% compared to Macrons 27%. It then relies on endorsements (or lack of them) for the 2nd round.
A very effective way of alienating about 50% of your electorate.

No wonder the French Press were stating it was "like choosing between Cholera or the plague"
How can it be 50% of the electorate when as you point out it was a record low turnout, almost 30% didn’t turn out in either first or second round. So you’re talking about 45% of the 70% turnout of the electorate. She’d have won if it was like you’ve presented it, an even narrower victory than Macron but she’d still have won.

In the UK 70% turnout would also be considered a decent turnout. You’ve got to go back to 1997 in the UK to see that turnout. It wasn’t a great result for Macron by any stretch of the imagination but it’s not as bad as your making out.
 

Grendel

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That's how a lot of elections go though.

Certainly the last general election here - many people voted, depending on which side of they fence they were on, to keep either Johnson or Corbyn out. I know I did.

The system is bizarre - the two left of centre parties blew each other out.

73% of the electorate who could even be arsed to vote voted against him.

Don’t think he’s going to have much backing in the parliamentary elections
 

skybluetony176

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The system is bizarre - the two left of centre parties blew each other out.

73% of the electorate who could even be arsed to vote voted against him.

Don’t think he’s going to have much backing in the parliamentary elections
He won a larger percentage of the vote on a bigger turnout than Boris did in 2019.
 

Grendel

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Especially considering a lot of her domestic and economic policy was very similar to melenchons....

What was the turnout btw?

Reuters article saying melanchon has a strong chance of being Prime Minister - that will be fun
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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How can it be 50% of the electorate when as you point out it was a record low turnout, almost 30% didn’t turn out in either first or second round. So you’re talking about 45% of the 70% turnout of the electorate.

No. You misunderstood.
I was referring to the 50% of all votes cast in round one that are then effectively binned as only the leading 2 candidates progress to round 2......
 

CCFCSteve

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Yeah, I read over the weekend it was getting close and a certainly that a confidence vote was on the way…potentially with Johnson then pushing for an earlier than anticipated election to dissuade dissenters from ousting him (hmmm, not sure that’s wise)

With May elections, end of Met investigation and possibly Gray report release it’s going to be an interesting couple of weeks !
 

skybluetony176

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No. You misunderstood.
I was referring to the 50% of all votes cast in round one that are then effectively binned as only the leading 2 candidates progress to round 2......
No I didn’t. Turnout in round one was about 70% so at best it’s 45% of 70% of the electorate as only 70% of the electorate turned out. So about 32% of the electorate in round one voted for the right not nearly 50% as you claimed.

Not sure who you’re lumping in with Le Pen either as another party with her values to make it up to 45% let alone 50%. I would assume the French Republican Party but they’re a centre right party not far right and unlike Le Pen very much pro EU and pro NATO so nothing like Le Pen.
 

Grendel

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No. You misunderstood.
I was referring to the 50% of all votes cast in round one that are then effectively binned as only the leading 2 candidates progress to round 2......

Why bother. I think Tony believes macron is prime minister and not president
 

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