skybluetony176
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So a family of four couldn’t order a takeout in lockdown?
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Philosoraptor
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I think travelling a few hundred miles when the country was in lockdown, was against the spirit of the rules.
Grendel
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I don’t think Sir Beer is shagging Red Ange and I don’t think the other 28 people are related Tony
Grendel
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What was the Durham police response
Philosoraptor
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Haven't checked, a spad is much different than an elected representative.
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He's had a knack of shifting with the winds too.
Watching you and O'Day drunkenly go toe-to-toe on incoherent spellings all afternoon while both pretending to be sober/working is a true privyledge.
Grendel
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Im hardly drunk. I haven’t had a beer or a curry.
I’m not working either - nor I assume are you - what does fascinate me about IRA Dave is his ability to know what I post when he has me on ignore
The reality is Starmer took the moral high ground and now looks utterly ridiculous- he can’t even recognise his own deputy leader in the same room - he’s on the special brew with his SBT spin doctor
Grendel
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The reality is the public will now see Starmer as a liar whatever the actual outcome - mud sticks
It’s laughable to suggest a take out curry with 30 people isn’t a breach - the real damning for the Labour Party is the bizarre denial Rayner attended - a blatant lie which there is no backtrack from
Johnson can’t and doesn’t take the high ground of morality. Starmer claims to be morally superior - sadly as he decided to bring issues in such people not being able to visit loved ones in hospital the same applies to him. He sniggers laughs, drinks beer has a Keema Nan with his chums while peoples loved ones died alone
He can’t have it both ways and the curry stain lives longer with the political hypocrites - it’s going to be hard to wash off
It’s laughable to suggest a take out curry with 30 people isn’t a breach - the real damning for the Labour Party is the bizarre denial Rayner attended - a blatant lie which there is no backtrack from
Johnson can’t and doesn’t take the high ground of morality. Starmer claims to be morally superior - sadly as he decided to bring issues in such people not being able to visit loved ones in hospital the same applies to him. He sniggers laughs, drinks beer has a Keema Nan with his chums while peoples loved ones died alone
He can’t have it both ways and the curry stain lives longer with the political hypocrites - it’s going to be hard to wash off
David O'Day
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Once cleared Starmer can use that to batter the pm
The giddiness
The information we have so far shows there was no breach, hence no FPN. I don't know why this is difficult for you to understand.
If there is new information that shows he broke the law, then fine him. I don't think there will be, this is just pressure from the Tories and right wing press.
Grendel
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The giddiness
The information we have so far shows there was no breach, hence no FPN. I don't know why this is difficult for you to understand.
If there is new information that shows he broke the law, then fine him. I don't think there will be, this is just pressure from the Tories and right wing press.
No giddiness but I’m sure you said Cummings was guilty didn’t you?
If you don’t think mud sticks fine but answer one question
Why did he lie Rayner wasn’t there?
I don't think he ever said Rayner wasn't there. Or if he did I haven't seen it.
skybluetony176
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I don’t pretend to understand the rules completely but it’s been confirmed that we were under tier 2 during beergate (unlike the downing st parties which happened in complete lockdown) and I think that limited meetings with friends and family to 6 not work colleagues at the office. You’re also seeming to be suggesting that Labour managed to make £250 worth of Indian takeaway stretch to 28 people which you can only draw two conclusions from. Either Kier is Jesus or Boris’ claim that Labour are inefficient when it comes to budgets is another Boris fact, otherwise known as a lie.
Either way if Starmer gets a FPN he has to resign his leadership, same as Boris should.
David O'Day
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I am imagining grenner failing about after his 5th 2l bottle of frosties
"Gerry Adams Sinn Fein IRA Mr Johnson"
"Gerry Adams Sinn Fein IRA Mr Johnson"
fernandopartridge
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Even if / when the investigation finds no law breaking, he's led himself right up the garden path.
David O'Day
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This.
Anyway, welcome an investigation as either he hasn't broken any laws, in which case Tories just prove their scum setting, or he has and he quits, and we see a difference in approach between what politicians should do, and what the man-child does.
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David O'Day
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why? he's not broken the law and I don't we should live a society where you have to worry about not breaking the law
David O'Day
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The Capital Restaurant is situated in the heart of historic Catherdral city of Durham. It offers a unique dining experience set in a grade II listed building inviting ambience combining English design with Indian visual themes.The restaurant presents a periodic evolving menu and a carefully...
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here's the menu, no way does 200 quid cover 28 people
Grendel
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Not really. Durham police have said they don’t take retrospective action haven’t they?
Bernard Castle wasn’t a breach then?
Grendel
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Home Page: The Capital
The Capital Restaurant is situated in the heart of historic Catherdral city of Durham. It offers a unique dining experience set in a grade II listed building inviting ambience combining English design with Indian visual themes.The restaurant presents a periodic evolving menu and a carefully...
here's the menu, no way does 200 quid cover 28 people
Is it more than 2?
Evo1883
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Using social media as a tool , it would suggest that the public think the right wing media and right wing MPs are wasting police time to play political football
"Durham’s former police chief has condemned attempts to get his former force to investigate Keir Starmer over allegations of Covid rule-breaking as “hypocritical” and “dangerous” and said there is no evidence the Labour leader flouted the law."
Grendel
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Of course he has. The problem any is I’m sure Durham police have said they won’t issue retrospective fines - with Bernard Castle they said they would have dealt with it at the time - so they can’t actually do much anyway but the point is if the Met adopted that approach Johnson wouldn’t have been fined either.
He’s dug a big hole and the fact he looks abs sounds very rattled will make it worse.
He should just fess up and say exactly how many were in the room
Grendel
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I don’t think a former police commissioner should be making statements like that tbh
Evo1883
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Well he has
fernandopartridge
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It's not the breaking the law as such it is the perceived equivalence
Ian1779
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Let’s be fair telling the truth isn’t high on the list of priorities for the Tory press.
David O'Day
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I’m genuinely surprised that people expect Starmer and Johnson* to resign based on the polices interpretation of two potential breaches. As far as I’m aware both gatherings were with work colleagues so as I say this comes down to polices interpretation of the rules and whether they have been broken. I’m not condoning either but resign ?!
If we lost the PM and leader of the opposition due to this, with the issues we as a country and the wider world are facing, I personally think it would be crazy
*talking only about ‘birthday’ FPN. As I’ve said before there might well be far clearer cut cases to consider and also the matter of potentially lying to parliament, both of which might justifiably lead to calls for resignation.
If we lost the PM and leader of the opposition due to this, with the issues we as a country and the wider world are facing, I personally think it would be crazy
*talking only about ‘birthday’ FPN. As I’ve said before there might well be far clearer cut cases to consider and also the matter of potentially lying to parliament, both of which might justifiably lead to calls for resignation.
David O'Day
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but what equivalence is there? none
oakey
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We love a liar but hate a hypocrite?
One openly f#c€s us over, makes and breaks rules and lies & blusters.
The other argues for a fairer society in a boring voice and makes a minor breach of the rules (allegedly) - has to go.
Then we will always be ruled by liars.
God help us all.
One openly f#c€s us over, makes and breaks rules and lies & blusters.
The other argues for a fairer society in a boring voice and makes a minor breach of the rules (allegedly) - has to go.
Then we will always be ruled by liars.
God help us all.
Evo1883
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Also think @Brighton Sky Blue was right , the UK is on the verge as sinn fein are now the biggest party in Northern Ireland for the first time ever
I suppose the tories will be the party that fucked the union after all
I suppose the tories will be the party that fucked the union after all