skybluetony176
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We’re well and truly back into the sea was closed territory.
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We’re well and truly back into the sea was closed territory.
skybluetony176
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Just looking into the civil servant cuts and it doesn’t look like we’re taking back control of our borders after all. If you start at the beginning since the Tories came into power the civil service lost almost 300,000 staff reaching an all time low in 2016, which is the figure Boris wants to get back too. In 2016 it was estimated that we’d need an additional 50,000 civil servants to deal with brexit created red tape including 5000 additional customs officers. Now either that figure was grossly underestimated or we haven’t recruited enough civil servants for that specific need yet as part of the 90,000 civil servants recruited since 2016 as we once again delayed just the other week taking back control of our borders because as Rees-Mogg acknowledged in a road to Damascus conversion implementing Brexit is an exercise in self harm. So basically customs invested in the Brexit infrastructure (which they’re looking for the government to reimburse them for by the way as it’s lying empty and unused, I think the total figure was £470m) but has never been able to recruit enough people to fill the needed positions, there’s now a recruitment freeze in the civil service and the bodies that they have managed to recruit since 2016 are probably going to lose their job in this latest government initiative. So clearly we’re not taking back control of our borders. You watch that get quietly swept under the carpet on a good day to bury bad news day. Remember though kids, Boris got brexit done.
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skybluetony176
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#oxforddebatingskills
chiefdave
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There was a documentary on the foreign office, think it was on the BBC, that covered Johnsons time and lets just say he didn't come out of it looking like someone you'd want to be reliant on or who you would consider a future PM.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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What a bizarre response. I hope there’s more to his answer than that as thats a shocker. Said before, bring UC temp increase back in until next benefits review
skybluetony176
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Just when you think things can’t get any worse for Northern Ireland Boris is going to visit on Monday. Presumably to tell them a British PM can and will put a border in the Irish Sea and you can’t throw export documents in the bin.
I say worse they’re doing better than us. Maybe Boris thinks they’ll be grateful that he’s given them the best of both worlds.
I say worse they’re doing better than us. Maybe Boris thinks they’ll be grateful that he’s given them the best of both worlds.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Nice to see the Israeli state acting with their usual compassion, sensitivity and restraint at the funeral of the journalist they murdered in a foreign land they illegally occupy.....
Brighton Sky Blue
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I don't know why Sinn Fein and the IRA bothered to do what they did when Boris and the DUP have done far more for Irish unity than any nationalist
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Just seen more footage on the news.... they're even beating the pall bearers ffs.
Israel is another terrorist state....they invite trouble and deserve all the shit they get. Scummy cunts.
Our Prime Minister, the man who runs our country, actually said this:
"My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you’re doing."
At least he's finally admitted what we all knew - that he's a lazy, workshy prick.
But imagine actually telling the whole country this is how he works while insulting those who work (hard) from home.
"My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you’re doing."
At least he's finally admitted what we all knew - that he's a lazy, workshy prick.
But imagine actually telling the whole country this is how he works while insulting those who work (hard) from home.
skybluetony176
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fernandopartridge
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Who defined the necessity of the list of tasks?
skybluetony176
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The truly excellent Naomi Long
I wonder if Boris will have the guts to meet her on Monday while in NI or will he just make a comfort call to the DUP who will most likely suck up to him, buy more lies from him and send him home feeling wanted.
I wonder if Boris will have the guts to meet her on Monday while in NI or will he just make a comfort call to the DUP who will most likely suck up to him, buy more lies from him and send him home feeling wanted.
shmmeee
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Progressive Britain based on polling and focus groups. I’ll see if I can find the first report.
Edit: my mistake. The report is linked in the first tweet I posted.
Sky Blue Pete
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Amazing isn't it. The actual Prime Minister in the space one sentence simultaneously describes himself as lazy and insults millions of people.
shmmeee
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Possibly because you aren’t a work shy tosspot bought and paid for by commercial landlords.
Nor mine, no mention of a daytime wank or popping on SBT (not at the same time you’ll be pleased to hear)
Talking of WFH, I was speaking to a young lad who works at one of the big legal practices yesterday. He said his department operates on Tuesday and Thursdays everyone in, flexible for rest of week however, they encourage the team to be in as much as possible. A sensible policy and fair play, I asked how much he goes in, expecting him to say maybe another day a week but he said pretty much every day as that’s where he learns most/gets more done
Surely stuff like this is just common sense. Some people are more productive in the office, some at home, some roles need/benefit from wider team interaction, some don’t. I’d probably add that if an individuals productivity is lower WFH then flexible working privileges for them should be dropped.
Surely stuff like this is just common sense. Some people are more productive in the office, some at home, some roles need/benefit from wider team interaction, some don’t. I’d probably add that if an individuals productivity is lower WFH then flexible working privileges for them should be dropped.
Sick Boy
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From experience of working in offices, a lot of time gets wasted by some people just aimlessly chatting. They’re probably the same people who don’t do a lot at home or anywhere.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Perhaps worse, I reckon he says things like that because he thinks it's what most people do
Brighton Sky Blue
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Number 2 and 3 'they don't say what they stand for', and the answer is to be the great abstainers?
shmmeee
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No I think it’s clear Labour need a policy agenda, I’m not too fussed until we get to campaign time though. Most voters don’t pay attention until then anyway.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Voters don't care about policy for the most part.
shmmeee
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Not sure that’s true. They don’t read manifestos but they want some idea of what the plan is. Said it a lot before but there was no clear agenda from Corbyn in 2019 despite having a manifesto like war and peace. Johnson’s manifesto was half a side of A4 but everyone knew how many police and hospitals and how we were going to Get Brexit Done.
Sick Boy
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So just empty promises and vacuous slogans then?
shmmeee
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Delivering on the manifesto post election is entirely optional. Got to get elected first though.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Well yes. So run a campaign of bullshit promises and 3 word slogans that mean something different to everyone who hears it.
And hold a pint high
shmmeee
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If that’s the game, that’s the game. Not sure it is though.
Election campaigns are about getting a message through to people who are only half listening. How they come across to political obsessives and how they come across to the average voter are two very different things.