Grendel
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Well ears often are unprovoked invasions and are always brutal
USSR invades Ukraine. (23 Viewers)
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Well ears often are unprovoked invasions and are always brutal
shmmeee
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Grendel
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Sky Blue Pete
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Yep happy to agree with that too they are completely on his head
Flying Fokker
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Modern warfare. I’d hate to be on the ground. Russia is being pasted by the West.
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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I think we have sent a few extra troops to one of Baltic States and we are currently engaged in military exercises within Finland. Saw a documentary the other day about the Finnish military. It may be a small country population wise but it has a very well equipped armed forces and it seems the entire male population has to go through military training not just when they are around 18 but at intervals throughout their adult life.
If Russia attempt to invade Finland they'll get a very big bloody nose. Not for the first time .
Otis
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David O'Day
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Grendel
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Of course Finland were never joining nato David
Flying Fokker
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I spoke to someone out in Lithuania today. There are American soldiers all over the place.
Otis
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Oh great. More broken marriages and a flood of babies and abortions in the next 9-12 months..
The whole war has been like that.
LastGarrison
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There always have been in the Baltic region though but obviously with the pre-planned exercises there will be a lot more.
I remember going down for breakfast in the Radisson Blu in Tallinn and there was quite a few Yank soldiers in uniform queuing up for the omelette station!
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Not unexpected IMO. He game was to instil fear in countries to not join. But this shows once they ignore him he knows he can't attack NATO conventionally so will back down. I think it also reduces the prospect of his willingness to 'push the button' and countries will see that he shys away from shows of force, so expect a more hardline stance against him in the future.
Surely it can only be a matter of time before even his own people will start to question just how good a leader he actually is.
David O'Day
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Problem for Russia is when Ukraine gets around to it the Russians will never hold the city.
Otis
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And look how much this has set Russia back and how they haven't been able to push forwards due to getting bogged down.
This is a victory for Ukraine, even if Russia have now taken the city. It's delayed them, depleted them and now, like DoD has said, Ukraine will now be able to counterattack.
David O'Day
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It allows Ukraine to do what they and the western equipment does best and destroy Russian units in open ground on the counterattack.
The reputation of the Russian army has been destroyed in this war. No one else is really going t be scared of them.
Look at Finland and Sweden one Turkey has got their concessions.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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A little bit more of this sort of thing & Putin may start to see more & more civil unrest.
Putin toppled from within is how this war ends.
Putin toppled from within is how this war ends.
Retired colonel speaks out on Russian TV
Mikhail Khodarenok gives a rare insight saying the military operation in Ukraine can only get worse.
www.bbc.co.uk
AOM
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A little bit more of this sort of thing & Putin may start to see more & more civil unrest.
Putin toppled from within is how this war ends.
Retired colonel speaks out on Russian TV
Mikhail Khodarenok gives a rare insight saying the military operation in Ukraine can only get worse.www.bbc.co.uk
The other people in that TV discussion
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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But lots of chocolate on the plus side.Oh great. More broken marriages and a flood of babies and abortions in the next 9-12 months..
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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You don't need to be scared of the Russian army but you do need to be scared of a nuclear bomb.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He can give the order but if people refuse to follow it is meaningless. Do people lower down the command chain agree that the world should be ended because they can’t erase Ukraine? I don’t think many do.
Sky Blue Pete
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The only kind of conscientious objecting that I feel is honourable is where the consequence is stark. Likely some would refuse and be sent to a prison camp but they’ll be plenty that will
Brighton Sky Blue
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It’s different when your choice is to go to prison or to trigger the end of the world. There is a third choice too, to overthrow the man making the order-which might be creeping closer.
Grendel
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I can’t see Sergei Labarov refusing
Sky Blue Pete
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Nor me
Seems Russia are gaining momentum in the east starting to take lots of villages and nearly encircled 8k Ukrainian troops, fingers crossed they get the reinforcements to push them back.
I’m not a war expert or anything but surely the fight is in the east so you should be moving troops there from Kyiv or something not all but some before the Russians get a foothold and then start pushing west as a army (something they have yet to do as one.
I’m not a war expert or anything but surely the fight is in the east so you should be moving troops there from Kyiv or something not all but some before the Russians get a foothold and then start pushing west as a army (something they have yet to do as one.
Not especially reliable....
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