Championship 22-23 (11 Viewers)

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

The odds on West Brom and 3 to 1 and Norwich at 5 to 2 are the worst in my mind are robbing the punters.The records of their managers does not breed confidence. Time may prove me wrong.

 

---

[SlowerThanPlatt]

The odds on West Brom and 3 to 1 and Norwich at 5 to 2 are the worst in my mind are robbing the punters.The records of their managers does not breed confidence. Time may prove me wrong.

What’s Smith done wrong? I’d happily have him here if Robins moved on

 

[Somerset Sky Blue]

The benefits of being slap bang in the middle of the country.

All depends on where the traveling fan starts from!

 

[fernandopartridge]

The odds on West Brom and 3 to 1 and Norwich at 5 to 2 are the worst in my mind are robbing the punters.The records of their managers does not breed confidence. Time may prove me wrong.

Both of their managers have achieved promotion from this division, what are you talking about?

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

Another example of how the British game needs to change to possibly the German strategy of fan owned clubs - fans once again have no say - From the outside looking in Burnley have spent pittance in the transfer market in there time in the premier league relying on the fabulous management of Sean dyche to falling from the trap door

Good points raised. Whilst Burnley were careful in their transfer fees, they are reported to have an £85M wage bill which whilst modest for the PL looks pretty big by championship standards.

 

[alexccfc99]

Good points raised. Whilst Burnley were careful in their transfer fees, they are reported to have an £85M wage bill which whilst modest for the PL looks pretty big by championship standards.

Burnley’s problem is I don’t really think that there are many in their squad who will command big transfer fees

Pope and Cornet will go for a fair wedge but I can’t really see anyone else in their squad worth that much

They may well have gone down anyway but I still can’t believe they got rid of Dyche just to stick one of the coaches in charge, I can see them struggling next season

 

[better days]

Burnley’s problem is I don’t really think that there are many in their squad who will command big transfer fees

Pope and Cornet will go for a fair wedge but I can’t really see anyone else in their squad worth that much

They may well have gone down anyway but I still can’t believe they got rid of Dyche just to stick one of the coaches in charge, I can see them struggling next season

They have terrible owners
A pound shop version of the Glazers at Manure
They'd previously tried to buy Southampton but were sent packing when it became obvious they were chancers with no money

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

they were chancers with no money

I’ve heard that somewhere before…

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

They have terrible owners
A pound shop version of the Glazers at Manure
They'd previously tried to buy Southampton but were sent packing when it became obvious they were chancers with no money

Agree - the owners used the same tactic as the Glazers to buy the club .... a leverage buy out, then transferring the debt to the club and charging over 8% interest

 

[alexccfc99]

They have terrible owners
A pound shop version of the Glazers at Manure
They'd previously tried to buy Southampton but were sent packing when it became obvious they were chancers with no money

I read that they look a loan out against the club which is now getting called in after relegation

Vincent Kompany to be their new manager is apparently a done deal from what I have seen

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Both of their managers have achieved promotion from this division, what are you talking about?

I’m not too keen on Bruce but Smith would be near the top of my list if we needed a new manager, good jobs at Walsall and Brentford

 

[fernandopartridge]

I’m not too keen on Bruce but Smith would be near the top of my list if we needed a new manager, good jobs at Walsall and Brentford

He did ok at Villa as well in reality, it's not as if it Gerrard has actually done much better.

Agree on Bruce but I think WBA will do ok next season

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Farke interviewed for the Blackburn job, now that would be a statement of intent

 

[Liquid Gold]

Another example of how the British game needs to change to possibly the German strategy of fan owned clubs - fans once again have no say - From the outside looking in Burnley have spent pittance in the transfer market in there time in the premier league relying on the fabulous management of Sean dyche to falling from the trap door

Our supporters trust would have had us shut down and we’d be playing non-league now if they had their way.

 

[long way home]

Big Dunc to Blackburn, if that happens i dont seeing it lasting long, the guys nuts.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Another example of how the British game needs to change to possibly the German strategy of fan owned clubs - fans once again have no say - From the outside looking in Burnley have spent pittance in the transfer market in there time in the premier league relying on the fabulous management of Sean dyche to falling from the trap door

the German model is the reason for the status quo remaining the same in Germany - Bayern have won the last 10 bundesligas. I agree we need fan representation, but the German model is held up in a better light Than it should be

 

[David O'Day]

Beale to QPR, he's the tactics mind behind Gerrard

 

[fernandopartridge]

Beale to QPR, he's the tactics mind behind Gerrard

disagrees

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

the German model is the reason for the status quo remaining the same in Germany - Bayern have won the last 10 bundesligas. I agree we need fan representation, but the German model is held up in a better light Than it should be

And look how RB Leipzig operate, practically a closed shop. There’ll always be ways round it

How RB Leipzig became the most hated club in German football | Bundesliga | The Guardian

Club’s rise into German football’s top flight has been dogged by boycotts and protests over its Red Bull-fuelled commercial structure<br>

amp.theguardian.com

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

And look how RB Leipzig operate, practically a closed shop. There’ll always be ways round it

How RB Leipzig became the most hated club in German football | Bundesliga | The Guardian

Club’s rise into German football’s top flight has been dogged by boycotts and protests over its Red Bull-fuelled commercial structure<br>

amp.theguardian.com

There is, and them and Leverkusen are the only teams other than Dortmund that get close to being a competitive team.

both sides effectively owned by rich benefactors. You could argue Hoffenheim are a decent club - but it’s rare someone will invest for only 49% of the say

 

[no_loyalty]

Beale to QPR, he's the tactics mind behind Gerrard

Now confirmed as QPR manager.

 

[David O'Day]

critchley to villa

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Must pay well…

 

[SleepyGinger]

critchley to villa

What’s that all about? Another strong season at Blackpool and he’d have a chance of getting a prem job himself

 

[no_loyalty]

critchley to villa

Very surprised at that, he has done a great job at Blackpool. Has he got no ambition?

 

[no_loyalty]

Tony Mowbray in at Blackpool?

 

[clint van damme]

What’s that all about? Another strong season at Blackpool and he’d have a chance of getting a prem job himself

He'll be manager at villa before the seasons out

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

the German model is the reason for the status quo remaining the same in Germany - Bayern have won the last 10 bundesligas. I agree we need fan representation, but the German model is held up in a better light Than it should be

There has been a fair bit of a shuffling around beneath Bayern mind you. Attendances once Covid restrictions are discounted remain very healthy, Union Berlin have been a real success story and ended up just a point off CL qualification the season just gone.

All German football is missing really is an obscene TV deal to give the other clubs a bit more muscle. The battle of the tycoons our game has turned into does little for me as a spectator I guess in the same way Bayern's dominance turns off others

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Farke interviewed for the Blackburn job, now that would be a statement of intent

Not sure how he would fare without an obscene financial advantage over most of the competition

 

[fernandopartridge]

What’s that all about? Another strong season at Blackpool and he’d have a chance of getting a prem job himself

Maybe this is a shortcut to one

 

[letsallsingtogether]

They have terrible owners
A pound shop version of the Glazers at Manure
They'd previously tried to buy Southampton but were sent packing when it became obvious they were chancers with no money

Wow carbon copy of Sisu they tried to buy Southampton aswell and were sent packing!

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Shocked at Critchley going but happy as he was building a good well coached team there

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

Both of their managers have achieved promotion from this division, what are you talking about?

Dean Smith promoted via play off's finishing 13 points behind Sheffield United and surviving a penalties( Lottery in my opinion) again.st West Brom in the semi's. The rest of his record does not breed confidence with a win record of just over 1 in every 3.As for Steve Bruce he took over from Valerien Ismeal and finished with a record no better. In fact you will find it hard to find a manager with a worse win record than his in their career. IMO both will struggle to justify those odds.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Dean Smith promoted via play off's finishing 13 points behind Sheffield United and surviving a penalties( Lottery in my opinion) again.st West Brom in the semi's.

So he got promoted then? (14th when he joined) it’s not really that I’m looking at, more the jobs at he did at Walsall and Brentford on small budget, some of the players he developed/bought for modest fees, Rico Henry, Romaine Sawyers, Tom Bradshaw, John Egan, Ollie Watkins, Neil Maupay

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

So he got promoted then? (14th when he joined) it’s not really that I’m looking at, more the jobs at he did at Walsall and Brentford on small budgets, some of the players he developed/bought for modest fees, Rico Henry, Romaine Sawyers, Tom Bradshaw, John Egan, Ollie Watkins, Neil Maupay

Smith is a good manager and I rate him other than for Villa