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Grendel

Grendel

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Great_Expectations said:
Hamer out for a decent fee, with that reinvested in a couple of high calibre, well thought of talented players. Plus retaining COH and Gyokeres.

And offloading Waghorn, Kane, Walker which allows for further incoming.

I’d be happy with that outcome.
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we in all probability still pay wages on waghorn and Walker even if they are loaned out
 
Grendel

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Great_Expectations said:
Agreed.

SISU stuff is boring. But hey, people need an enemy and now it’s off season and we can’t choose a boy boo from the playing staff, it’s back to the default SISU out stuff. Weird NOPM hasnt been a thing since the team started doing well.
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NOPM never was a thing
 
Grendel

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Skybluedownunder said:
Portsmouth had a 20% sell on fee so we only made a little bit as I thought we paid £750k for him but at least we didn’t lose anything on him


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no one knows what we paid - we declared a profit on player sales that year of £3.8 m including Bayliss Chaplin and McCallum
 
PUSB-We_are_going_up

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better days said:
We'll drive a hard bargain though
We're in the driving seat with all the players who are likely to be in demand on contracts with a decent period left
Difficult to see why anyone should be upset about this
It's the same at virtually all clubs
And at least our best players can't walk away for nothing as they can at a good number of other clubs where their contracts are expiring on 30th June
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This brings me a slight bit more confidence in a higher transfer fee
 
Hoofhearted

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SlowerThanPlatt said:
I think we will be looking for a younger centre back with the departures of Pask and imminently Drysdale. Two released by Wolves who we signed a couple players from Raphael Nya (21) and Pascal Estrada (20), don’t know how close either would be to being capable of playing a couple of games in the Championship but got good pedigree
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I've heard that Estrada "chips" in with his fair share of goals 🤭
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
No, its just clear that our owners dont give a stuff and only care for the profit margins, the more they get the better, do they care what the fans think? No? They own the club its theirs to do with what they wish, and I imagine they wont give much to Robins to reinvest
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While I sort of agree about the owners motives, a bit of long term thinking would tell you that it could end up meaning you have to put more in long term if you take sort term gains now. They saw that soon after taking over after they flogged the family silver for a quick gain and then spent a decade of decline and reducing revenues.

But finance is notoriously short-term thinking and chasing quick profits so it may well be they ignore that warning from history. Even then, the way business is set up these days they're probably not that bothered as if they have to put in loans they can whack a load of interest on top, which then gets bigger as the club can't afford to pay it back. It's a nonsensical way of operating really as the only way those debts which actually get paid is if the club succeeds in promotion (which this doesn't help towards). If they want it back via a sale it's going to be harder and harder as their price goes up but the value of what they're selling hasn't.
 
Grendel

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
While I sort of agree about the owners motives, a bit of long term thinking would tell you that it could end up meaning you have to put more in long term if you take sort term gains now. They saw that soon after taking over after they flogged the family silver for a quick gain and then spent a decade of decline and reducing revenues.

But finance is notoriously short-term thinking and chasing quick profits so it may well be they ignore that warning from history. Even then, the way business is set up these days they're probably not that bothered as if they have to put in loans they can whack a load of interest on top, which then gets bigger as the club can't afford to pay it back. It's a nonsensical way of operating really as the only way those debts which actually get paid is if the club succeeds in promotion (which this doesn't help towards). If they want it back via a sale it's going to be harder and harder as their price goes up but the value of what they're selling hasn't.
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They can easily reward bond holders by remaining in this division
 
cooperskyblue

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I think selling one of our assets for mega money and being able to then sign several high quality players with the funds would leave us in a much stronger position than if we kept all 3 and had a far reduced budget to bring in lower calibre players.

We are in a win win situation, we either keep our best players or we are in a position to demand mega money and then reinvest and strengthen across the team as a whole.
 
Samo

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cooperskyblue said:
I think selling one of our assets for mega money and being able to then sign several high quality players with the funds would leave us in a much stronger position than if we kept all 3 and had a far reduced budget to bring in lower calibre players.

We are in a win win situation, we either keep our best players or we are in a position to demand mega money and then reinvest and strengthen across the team as a whole.
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But how much will MR really get?
They will expect him to keep picking up and developing bargains.
I will be amazed if we spend sizable amounts, no matter how much comes in.
 
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cooperskyblue

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Samo said:
But how much will MR really get?
They will expect him to keep picking up and developing bargains.
I will be amazed if we spend sizable amounts, no matter how much comes in.
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Well that's a good question and I have no idea. But we spent a fee on Hamer, have invested in Sheaf, Gyokeres as well, so we are prepared to pay a fee for someone who we see can become a future asset. So I wouldn't want us to go out and then pay several million on one player but try and pick up 3 or 4 players of the Hamer/Sheaf/Gyokeres ilk that we can improve and sell them on for huge profits.

Got to trust the recruitment and if done right I think selling one of our assets to give us some extra resource could be beneficial in the long run.
 
SlowerThanPlatt

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cooperskyblue said:
Well that's a good question and I have no idea. But we spent a fee on Hamer, have invested in Sheaf, Gyokeres as well, so we are prepared to pay a fee for someone who we see can become a future asset. So I wouldn't want us to go out and then pay several million on one player but try and pick up 3 or 4 players of the Hamer/Sheaf/Gyokeres ilk that we can improve and sell them on for huge profits.

Got to trust the recruitment and if done right I think selling one of our assets to give us some extra resource could be beneficial in the long run.
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One of the above posts from someone who would know said only the salary will be allowed to reinvested
 
larry_david

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If hamers on 14k a week and we get someone in up to 14k a week, don't see the issue. Also out of the 'big 3' hamer is very replaceable
 
David O'Day

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Lads Robins will get money to replace Hamer if he leaves.

SB is pretty good but that was just his opinion. No one knows what the fee would be even if Hamer is sold so no one actually knows and there is no "inside" info on how much of it MR may be given.
 
Pricey1984

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I don't see why we would invest in the likes of hamer with the intention of selling them if the profit wasn't going to go back in the team to some degree. The plan kinda went to pot years ago when they quickly abandoned it with the likes of fox and dann...surely they can't make the same mistake again if this it the direction they want to take? Assuming anyone even leaves that is
 
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