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[skybluetony176]

Why can't I help but feel that if he had the polls wouldn't look like that. It does feel that it's 'whatever they do, it's the wrong thing and they should have done the other'.

Yeah, that’s a fair point. I can very easily imagine a world where that is very possible.

 

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[Ian1779]

The fucking state of this

It’s utterly batshit bollocks… only a complete fucking imbecile would link the two things together.

 

[rob9872]

It’s utterly batshit bollocks… only a complete fucking imbecile would link the two things together.

I agree, it's similar to those suggesting unrelated issues are a convenient distraction for Boris

 

[clint van damme]

Jesus, what has this country become?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Jesus, what has this country become?

Even the Victorians understood the point of unions as I’m surprised Rees-Mogg hasn’t established

 

[rob9872]

In Victorian times when most people had nothing they were far more valuable.

 

[PVA]

Jesus, what has this country become?

I like how they've no doubt spent days trying to dig up some dirt on him and the best they can come up with is... a cartoon character as his Facebook profile picture.

 

[skybluetony176]

The fucking state of this

In unrelated news Canada has just put sanctions on Alexander Lebedev as they recognise him as a Putin stooge. That’s the same Alexander Lebedev that Boris parties with. But the RMT…

 

[David O'Day]

Inflation over 9%

 

[rob9872]

Not surprising with the fuel crisis and if you support public sector increases then it will add to the problem.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

In Victorian times when most people had nothing they were far more valuable.

They still are.

 

[skybluetony176]

Not surprising with the fuel crisis and if you support public sector increases then it will add to the problem.

We could always level up. Ie close the inaquality gap. Reverse the trend of the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer. A fairer distribution of wealth is what needed.

 

[Otis]

We could always level up. Ie close the inaquality gap. Reverse the trend of the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer. A fairer distribution of wealth is what needed.

What a ridiculous notion.

 

[David O'Day]

Judging on this weeks PMQs, the PM seems to have all but given up.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Not surprising with the fuel crisis and if you support public sector increases then it will add to the problem.

I haven't had an inflation matching pay rise for years, but inflation has still gone up

 

[clint van damme]

Not surprising with the fuel crisis and if you support public sector increases then it will add to the problem.

Maybe MPs should have set an example and not accepted theirs

 

[rob9872]

I haven't had an inflation matching pay rise for years, but inflation has still gone up

Yes, but the inflation currently is beyond control based on what's happening in Ukraine forcing everything up on the back of a lengthy furlough period protecting jobs. There is no magic nony tree, but surely if you're unhappy with your pay increases, youu could change jobs - I know from trying to recruit that it's certainly an employee's market out there at present.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Yes, but the inflation currently is beyond control based on what's happening in Ukraine forcing everything up on the back of a lengthy furlough period protecting jobs. There is no magic nony tree, but surely if you're unhappy with your pay increases, youu could change jobs - I know from trying to recruit that it's certainly an employee's market out there at present.

What are you recruiting for, and how much do you pay?

 

[rob9872]

Maybe MPs should have set an example and not accepted theirs

Well you don't like the current crop, so we need the salaries to represent what an important job they do and ensure it's attractive enough to encourage the next batch to aspire.

 

[David O'Day]

Not surprising with the fuel crisis and if you support public sector increases then it will add to the problem.

you know fuck all about economics

Would a wage/price spiral cause inflation to run out of control?

Treasury officials’ fear that rising pay in pursuit of rising prices will create a vicious circle may be unjustified

www.theguardian.com

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Well you don't like the current crop, so we need the salaries to represent what an important job they do and ensure it's attractive enough to encourage the next batch to aspire.

Bit like rail workers or refuse collection drivers, then?

 

[David O'Day]

What are you recruiting for, and how much do you pay?

no one

 

[SBAndy]

Yes, but the inflation currently is beyond control based on what's happening in Ukraine forcing everything up on the back of a lengthy furlough period protecting jobs. There is no magic nony tree, but surely if you're unhappy with your pay increases, youu could change jobs - I know from trying to recruit that it's certainly an employee's market out there at present.

Will putting the wages of public sector workers up change the availability of cooking oil?

 

[rob9872]

What are you recruiting for, and how much do you pay?

Customer service, £22-£24k (part time pro rata considered) and a pitiful response tbh. I've just appointed again for a role and hoping not to get gazumped as others have found out here recently.

 

[rob9872]

you know fuck all about economics

Would a wage/price spiral cause inflation to run out of control?

Treasury officials’ fear that rising pay in pursuit of rising prices will create a vicious circle may be unjustified

www.theguardian.com

You know fk all about anything but stop you having a try. Bless.

 

[David O'Day]

wage/price spirals are nonsense

 

[clint van damme]

Well you don't like the current crop, so we need the salaries to represent what an important job they do and ensure it's attractive enough to encourage the next batch to aspire.

Taking regular pay rises while public sector workers have had pay freezes isn't a good look.

And I doubt the current crop of fuck wits is anything to do with the salary being too low in many cases

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Customer service, £22-£24k (part time pro rata considered) and a pitiful response tbh. I've just appointed again for a role and hoping not to get gazumped as others have found out here recently.

Maybe you need to pay more

 

[rob9872]

Maybe you need to pay more

I dont set the company rates for the position .. anyhow, it will push up inflation

 

[David O'Day]

inflation is tracking on a trend that started way before russia invaded the ukraine and the uk is the worst in the g7

 

[SBAndy]

The thesis behind increased wages leading to increased inflation is centred around one thing: profit margin. If companies were willing to take the hit on their margin then it wouldn’t be an issue. The fact they feel the need to put prices up and restore their margin shows the general greed.

And no, I’m not saying that every business can limit their margins but fuck me, if a rail network which is Government-subsidised can’t then what hope is there?

 

[Grendel]

Maybe MPs should have set an example and not accepted theirs

Perhaps the solution is to have an independent pay review for public bodies and the employee and unions agree to accept the outcome whatever it is

 

[CCFCSteve]

Based on what?
I think it's fare to say this government has scant regard for public safety.

It’s obviously an assumption but based on human nature and the fact that every interview discussing the strike those supporting it (Lynch etc) have focussed on pay and the cost of living crisis. I then asked myself if the workers were offered an 8-10% pay rise would they be striking. I doubt it

As I’ve said it’s each to their own if they support the strike, I can see both sides of the argument. The offer of 2% plus an extra couple of 0.5% rises with tie ins felt derisory under the current climate and so I can understand why they are striking, even if I don’t necessarily agree with strikes (except if there were dangerous working conditions).

There should hopefully be a happy medium of say 6-7% pay rise (maybe even a bit more for lowest paid ie sub national average) with some agreement on efficiency savings to try to minimise increased cost/burden on customers

 

[Grendel]

you know fuck all about economics

Would a wage/price spiral cause inflation to run out of control?

Treasury officials’ fear that rising pay in pursuit of rising prices will create a vicious circle may be unjustified

www.theguardian.com

 

[shmmeee]

What does this even mean? It’s classic Kier word salad.

Which word is giving you trouble?

The aim of the Labour Party is to get into govenrment (“party of Government”), they are not a protest group or a niche party, as such they should aim to attract as many people as possible to vote for them.

More people think Labour have been too supportive of the strikes than too negative. Therefore the correct position, considering their aim of attracting voters, is to be more skeptical of the strikes.

Brighton, and you it seems, are in a very small minority of people who think Labour have been too negative. However electoral politics being what it is means that you won’t be catered to by a party of government as you are a minority. You are also likely to not vote Tory and live somewhere that isn’t a target seat.