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Bugsy
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British Airways workers at Heathrow vote to strike during school summer holidays
The strike action follows a wave of discontent expressed by workers across the country in recent months. Many are demanding higher wages to deal with the cost of living crisis.
Otis
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No tuition fees?
I knew you'd instantly respond to say it's irrelevant. You're nothing if not predictable.
It's not irrelevant, it would be a big deal. It would be a huge swing.
fernandopartridge
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Grendel
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Also labour have just surrendered there and invited and encouraged their votes to go to Lib Dems - it’s pathetic from labour they may as well not have stood
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Nick Clegg has a lot to answer for.
clint van damme
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And that's just in his time at Facebook
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In all seriousness though, there's been a combination of stupidity that's created the conditions for Johnson.
- Iraq has nobbled Blair's legacy, so nobody listens to him on anything else;
- Clegg backtracking on his manifesto and going into power with the Tories gave them a free pass the following election;
- Add to that him not liking Brown so not even entertaining a Lib-Lab coalition at the time;
- Both Blair and Lib Dems being discredited meant voices against Brexit were diminished, lacked credibility, and couldn't carry people along.
So here we are, when a fair few who voted Lib Dem can't again for the foreseeable, even if some of their policies align with their own beliefs, because the betrayal was enormous. That's given the Tories a free ride in some places, and allowed them to focus on other areas as a result, and take seats from Labour where they normally wouldn't.
Add to the fact that nobody within Labour will now listen to Blair on how to win an election, despite the fact he's the only one to manage it, and you have an opposition divided between the legacy MPs who were around at his time, the newer intake, and the party members - meaning they're doomed to be ineffective as long as they don't all come together in some way, whoever the leader is (be it Corbyn, Starmer, or Donald Duck).
Brighton Sky Blue
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Starmer called a tosser on the campaign trail
Grendel
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I mean really Blair was a snake whose only interest was Blair
the Lib Dems would sleep with Stalin if they had a seat at the top table. They are a slimy bunch of opportunists with not one ounce of principal
Northants Sky Blue
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Wait till you clock this current Cabinet
shmmeee
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By any measure I’m significantly better off. My main point here is if you tell public sector workers they can’t strike and that they won’t be paid market rate, don’t then complain when they all fuck off. Unless you just want music, art and English in the curriculum
Similar problem in healthcare from what I understand with people going agency and costing the NHS loads more.
shmmeee
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Grendel
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Irony meter off the scale here - you cant make it up
shmmeee
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And yet you did
skybluetony176
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QT is really highlighting how low the bar is to be a government minister. Mick Lynch has spent a week making them look foolish in media appearance and the QT audience has him the nearest I’ve seen him to flustered.
chiefdave
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how is the audience selected for QT? this lot aren't making Stratford look good that's for sure.
fernandopartridge
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The production company that makes it is as Tory as anything. Look how empty it is and the age profile of the audience.
Brighton Sky Blue
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LDs and Labour secure near half the vote in winning the respective by-elections. One brought about by someone watching porn in the Commons, the other by a convicted sex offender.
Elsewhere, Big Dog hints at approving a new coal mine to flip off the climate
Elsewhere, Big Dog hints at approving a new coal mine to flip off the climate
Johnson hints that new coal mine for Cumbria will get go-ahead
The government faces a huge decision over what to do in Cumbria, amid employment and climate concerns.
www.bbc.co.uk
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David O'Day
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that is bad for the tories, really bad
stupot07
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Did you see last weeks at Newcastle.....they were even worse, came across as a bunch of racists.
I really felt sorry for that ticket officer in the audience. That one bloke in particular, proper gammon was getting very angry and quite keen to make people compulsory redundant.
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Well it's easy to say it every time, but this does push Johnson a bit closer to going, as he's currently a massive elctoral liability. The difference to past regimes is it's hard to see him actually resigning himself, and they can't force him out for another year!
Ian1779
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Sky Blue Pete
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Dowden resigned
Raab was going to be interviewed but not now
Johnson in Rwanda at a commonwealth conference. Is Rwanda in the commonwealth
Bit of a mess
And the Qt audience were a strange bunch
Raab was going to be interviewed but not now
Johnson in Rwanda at a commonwealth conference. Is Rwanda in the commonwealth
Bit of a mess
And the Qt audience were a strange bunch
Sky Blue Pete
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For everyone bar johnson
But we know that Johnson already has no credibility. He also has no morals. He wouldn't care how Starmer resigning would make him look, he'd just carry on as normal.
If they want another vote they can just change the rules.
Which I think seems quite likely at this stage