Hamer bids (23 Viewers)

Jamesimus

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I also have the feeling that he's the one of the holy trinity that I would be happiest to leave.

Saying that, I wouldn't be happy about it because I think he's great and will be difficult to replace.

Obviously completely different kind of player to Lee Carsley, and I'd say he's more similar to Fleck, but maybe a Sheffield United Fleck (when he remembered he was getting paid to be an athlete, not deep fat fry every meal).

Not scared of trying stuff, which I like.
 

SkyblueDad

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Not happy to be selling any of our “big” three but from a football business point of view I’d be wanting to keep Gyo & O’Hare, good all round centre-forwards are a rare breed and Vik ticks the box there if he adds similar amount of goals this season his value will soar and O’Hare is imo critical to our style of play and if he starts chipping in the goals he should his value will rocket too. As for Hamer really don’t want him to go but again imo of the three he is the easiest to replace there’s some quality midfielders still out there out of contract just interested how much of any fee sisu allow for any replacement.
 

lord_garrincha

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If we lose Hamer, he'll be telling Fulham to sign Vik and Sheaf, both superb talents and both young........... Watch this space 🤔
Incorrect... a clause in the new contract he signed meant he could only tell his new employer about the following superb talents.

- Kane
- Walker
- Waghorn

Poor O'Hare has to big up Hilssner in his new contract... "See past the crutches!"
 

Deity

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Agree, they obviously are aware, but first question he'll get if he signs is who's worth taking.

Regarding your Sheaf comment, big season coming up, the boy is a absolute Gem.
Im not sure it works like that yheee days.
They will know all about our best players. They may try to find out about his character but unlikely to ask “ is he any good ? “
 

Jamieb87ccfc

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I can't be arsed to read this thread. All I know is he is the best footballer we have had post Prem-relegation.

When I said this some months ago, one poster said Craig Hignett was better and one mentioned John Eustace!
He’s a great player and not the finished article but we’ve had some great midfielders albeit at the end of their career since we’ve been out of the premier league:
Gary McAllister
Lilian Nalis
Dennis Wise
Don Hutchinson
Vincent Engonga
Youseff Safri (I know it wasn’t the end of his career as he went to the Prem)
 

Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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Don’t get me wrong it will be gutting whenever we lose one of ‘the big 3’ but we have to trust in the process. In Robins tenure we have been disappointed in losing Thomas, McNulty, Bayliss, Walsh, McCallum and we have kept progressing and signing improvements.

I am hoping that the reason we have had a quiet window so far, by Robins quick out of the blocks standards, is because we have been lining up replacements. Transfers often happen like dominos at this level, where we will only allow a team to speak to a player once we have an agreed replacement lined up.

I will be sad to see Hamer, COH or Gyokeres go but I trust in Robins - just like I did when he brought them in and I’d never heard of them!
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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I would say of the 3 Hamer is the closest to being the finished article and I think it makes more sense to let him go as his value will not really increase with us unless we go up or make the play offs
 

Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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He’s a great player and not the finished article but we’ve had some great midfielders albeit at the end of their career since we’ve been out of the premier league:
Gary McAllister (could only play the way he was facing. Slowed the play down to walking football paces.)
Lilian Nalis (who?)
Dennis Wise (agree he was technically very good, the closest one to challenging Hamer)
Don Hutchinson (good technically and could produce magic but defensively poor and slow)
Vincent Engonga (WHO?)
Youseff Safri (I know it wasn’t the end of his career as he went to the Prem) [Morrocan Michael Doyle, nothing on Hamer technically]

Based on their comparative performances in the championship, see above in brackets.
 

shmmeee

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That’s never going to happen. As we progress as a club our wage bill gets bigger and bigger (over and above revenue increases), so to expect us to sell a player and reinvest all of the fee in an equal fee is unrealistic.

Our model is such that we have to sell a player every year or two, to fund the rest of the squad. I’d expect a significant amount of it to be available for the overall playing budget, however robins wants to spend that

Read it again. I said the fee we got him for (around a million) not the fee we got for him.
 

ccfctommy

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He’s a great player and not the finished article but we’ve had some great midfielders albeit at the end of their career since we’ve been out of the premier league:
Gary McAllister
Lilian Nalis
Dennis Wise
Don Hutchinson
Vincent Engonga
Youseff Safri (I know it wasn’t the end of his career as he went to the Prem)

Lilian Nalis? And Engonga was terrible!
 

baldy

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He’s a great player and not the finished article but we’ve had some great midfielders albeit at the end of their career since we’ve been out of the premier league:
Gary McAllister
Lilian Nalis
Dennis Wise
Don Hutchinson
Vincent Engonga
Youseff Safri (I know it wasn’t the end of his career as he went to the Prem)

Surely this is a joke post - When did Nalis play for us?Plus Engonga was absolutely shite
 

stupot07

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Surely this is a joke post - When did Nalis play for us?Plus Engonga was absolutely shite
2005 on loan.
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harvey098

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Better then Maddison?

He’s not better then many players we’ve had - David Thompson as an example

You didn’t rate Maddison when he was here 😂

Anyway, we don’t need to worry about losing Hamer to the premier league because someone that knows what they’re talking about said this earlier this year:


The problem with hamer is expectation - the notion he’s a premier league player in the making is rubbish …People just need to stop the nonsense hype as he’s never on a premier clubs radar
 

shmmeee

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As much as the unnecessary panicking bugs me, selling 1 of the big 3 is expected. If we sold 2 then I’d be quite worried.

Its got to be the model to sell at their peak and reinvest. That means O’Hare and Hamer off this summer really. As long as we reinvest enough to build the squad quality/potential I won’t be worried.
 

Grendel

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You didn’t rate Maddison when he was here 😂

Anyway, we don’t need to worry about losing Hamer to the premier league because someone that knows what they’re talking about said this earlier this year:


The problem with hamer is expectation - the notion he’s a premier league player in the making is rubbish …People just need to stop the nonsense hype as he’s never on a premier clubs radar

Well is he? And again Harvey the Biamou files are there to observe
 

Tommo1993

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Its got to be the model to sell at their peak and reinvest. That means O’Hare and Hamer off this summer really. As long as we reinvest enough to build the squad quality/potential I won’t be worried.

That’s the part that bothers me some.
 

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