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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Calling it now: Sunak in, bounce in the polls, quick election based around how Labour are radicals and the Sunak is the best bland man in suit.
I agree. Can see a quick GE if there is a change of PM, cos there'd be so many people saying they'll give them a chance under a new leader, even though said leader is highly likely to have been a major part of this lying, incompetent clusterfuck.
 

Ian1779

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It is a flat out lie to say more people are voting for Labour than at any point during the last decade, it is easily verifiable to say they are not. The two most recent by-elections for example:

Labour got less votes in Tiverton than they did in 2019, 2017, 2015

Wakefield they got less votes than they did in 2019, 2017 and 2015

Granted there was a lower turnout because it was a by-election, but given that they keep talking about how they're turning round the 2019 catastrophe, surely you could at least aim to get a similar number of people to actually bother to vote for you, in the face of a very unpopular government and a cost of living squeeze.
It’s convenient for all these ‘grown ups’ to ignore the fact that Labour had 13m votes in 2017 and still got over 10m in 2019 despite being pasted.

She should have just stuck with ‘we’ve got more liberal commentators voting for Labour now than we have for over a decade’
 

Grendel

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I agree. Can see a quick GE if there is a change of PM, cos there'd be so many people saying they'll give them a chance under a new leader, even though said leader is highly likely to have been a major part of this lying, incompetent clusterfuck.

No chance. Someone said today internal labour polling show Johnson is the only Tory who remotely registers in Red Wall seats they would need to recover more of the natural base
 

Grendel

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It’s convenient for all these ‘grown ups’ to ignore the fact that Labour had 13m votes in 2017 and still got over 10m in 2019 despite being pasted.

She should have just stuck with ‘we’ve got more liberal commentators voting for Labour now than we have for over a decade’

Im surprised she didn’t apply for the chancellors job - she’d have been considered too Tory I guess
 

Grendel

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Just riduculous that someone with absolutely no ability can earn a fortune to waffle on about shit they don't understand.

Why? Hague commands around £30 grand and he’s brilliant boris Johnson would be great entertainment
 
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I reckon Johnson would earn £200 grand an hour on the circuit - May gets £115 grand
Fucking hell. At least you'd get a fairly entertaining evening with Boris Johnson. You may as well have booked Mike from the Young Ones as Theresa May.
 

Grendel

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Fucking hell. At least you'd get a fairly entertaining evening with Boris Johnson. You may as well have booked Mike from the Young Ones as Theresa May.

It is bizarre she’s earned over a million in a year

Poor David Lammy he’s trying

 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Why? Hague commands around £30 grand and he’s brilliant boris Johnson would be great entertainment
Maybe for some.

I'd just be there thinking "shut the fuck up you utter moron". There's only so many times you can here someone bumbling before having a severe case of Verbalis Diarrhea Latinus to fill the dead space cos he hasn't prepared or got a fucking clue what he's talking about.

He talks a lot, but says nothing.
 

Grendel

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Maybe for some.

I'd just be there thinking "shut the fuck up you utter moron". There's only so many times you can here someone bumbling before having a severe case of Verbalis Diarrhea Latinus to fill the dead space cos he hasn't prepared or got a fucking clue what he's talking about.

He talks a lot, but says nothing.

with respect I doubt you’d be able to afford to attend the events he will go to
 

Grendel

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Liquid Gold

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I don’t see an election anytime soon with a new Tory leader.

Just so many easy targets to attack with the cost of living crisis and chaos in the party.

I think it would be sensible to try and ride out the next couple of years, hope the war in Ukraine ends and inflation comes back under control. In the meantime they can spin an austerity narrative paying back corona and get back to traditional Tory stripping down the state.
 

shmmeee

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I don’t see an election anytime soon with a new Tory leader.

Just so many easy targets to attack with the cost of living crisis and chaos in the party.

I think it would be sensible to try and ride out the next couple of years, hope the war in Ukraine ends and inflation comes back under control. In the meantime they can spin an austerity narrative paying back corona and get back to traditional Tory stripping down the state.

History suggests just after a GE is as good as it gets for them. When was the last Tory government with a leader that lasted a term? Major?
 
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History suggests just after a GE is as good as it gets for them. When was the last Tory government with a leader that lasted a term? Major?
Cameron's. Let's not pretend it was a coalition!
 
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Can't believe only Javid has resigned from the cabinet on a point of principle. Seems there won't be any government ministers left at this rate!
 

skybluetony176

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Michael Gove about to throw a bomb in according to the Mail. Not going as far as resigning (yet) but apparently has already told him this morning that he needs to go but also about to get a delegation together to go to see him again and tell him again in numbers. Presumably they’ll all be resigning if still refuses, well those in government anyway.
 
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Michael Gove about to throw a bomb in according to the Mail. Not going as far as resigning (yet) but apparently has already told him this morning that he needs to go but also about to get a delegation together to go to see him again and tell him again in numbers. Presumably they’ll all be resigning if still refuses, well those in government anyway.
Why on earth wouldn't you quit and follow Javid, though?
 

fatso

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Oh god, ffs just go, let's just have a new PM and get on with some actual dealing with real world issues.
 

skybluetony176

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Yeah we need the Tories to get on with sorting out the issues caused by those pesky Tories.
And that’s the biggest issue. The Tories that need to sort out the mess created by the Tories latest stint in power are even more inept than the ones that created that mess in the first place. What a time to be alive.

I remember talking to a mate of mine 10 years or so ago who had children way before me an they were then sitting A levels and GCSE’s and he said he envied me because by the time my kids are leaving school we’ll be through the worst and my kids would be leaving school into a far better scenario than his will as my kids were in primary school at the time. My eldest is just doing GCSE mocks at the moment. How wrong we were.
 

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