Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Ben Houchen , mayor of Tees Valley, just interviewed on channel.4 about Boris.
He is the nephew of Keith Houchen. I googled it !
He is the nephew of Keith Houchen. I googled it !
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Did wonder.
Otis
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It makes zero sense to me how Boris is still at the helm. Everyone has concluded that he is a devious, untrustworthy liar.
He should be nowhere near 10 Downing Street. They should have gone with Raab or a caretaker PM like May.
Everyone has said Johnson has no integrity, yet here we still are, with him as PM.
He should be nowhere near 10 Downing Street. They should have gone with Raab or a caretaker PM like May.
Everyone has said Johnson has no integrity, yet here we still are, with him as PM.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It makes zero sense to me how Boris is still at the helm. Everyone has concluded that he is a devious, untrustworthy liar.
He should be nowhere near 10 Downing Street. They should have gone with Raab or a caretaker PM like May.
Everyone has said Johnson has no integrity, yet here we still are, with him as PM.
Those who have stood by and lied countless times on his behalf don’t deserve to lead either. Probably Jeremy Hunt should be the caretaker as someone who has spent most of this Parliament outside of the clown’s circle
It makes zero sense to me how Boris is still at the helm. Everyone has concluded that he is a devious, untrustworthy liar.
He should be nowhere near 10 Downing Street. They should have gone with Raab or a caretaker PM like May.
Everyone has said Johnson has no integrity, yet here we still are, with him as PM.
Would not be at all surprised for a lot of them to switch back to supporting him again over the coming months, particularly if the polls improve for them even slightly.
'he's learned his lessons/he's committed to change' etc etc
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He can't stand for leader if he does that
Brighton Sky Blue
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Is that a rule or a convention?
SkyBlueSoul
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A plea
Sick Boy
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The Mail really is weird.
www.dailymail.co.uk
www.dailymail.co.uk
ANDREW PIERCE reveals inside story of tense last hours in No. 10
ANDREW PIERCE: While Boris marched to the lectern outside No 10, in Downing Street bunker, his loyalists were white with rage at the plotters who had brought him down.
RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Boris Johnson has been downed
RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Did any of those treacherous Tory non-entities who helped bring down Boris Johnson experience even the teensiest tinge of regret?
Otis
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What they said now?
Sick Boy
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The stuff about an emotional one to one with Priti and the gaze of Mrs T is just bizarre.Oh. Just saw their headline.
Sick Boy
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This one is actually really strange PETER HITCHENS: The next election may be the last British poll ever
JAM See
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robbiekeane
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dutchman
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"In 2017, it took the Dutch 225 days to form a cabinet. "
Those periods when Holland had only a caretaker government were also some of the most successful!
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Hitchens is a bit of a strange one. He has the odd interesting thing to say about freedoms and liberty but I’m not even sure his views would even sit well with many Mail readers.
Hes always given me the impression that if he didn’t work as a journalist he’d be one of those nutters roaming the high street preaching his views at poor fuckers in town just trying to do their shopping
skybluetony176
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Maybe the editor still thinks Boris wheels enough power to get him a knighthood. Allegedly there’s been a power struggle between the owner and the editor for a while now on reporting on Boris and his government. The editor is part of the Boris cult and is allegedly expecting a knighthood for his loyalty whereas the owner wanted a more critical approach and doesn’t care about knighthoods because he already has one. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s all change at The Mail with Boris going, seem to remember it was all change there when Boris arrived, probably depends on who the next PM is I guess.The Mail really is weird.
ANDREW PIERCE reveals inside story of tense last hours in No. 10
ANDREW PIERCE: While Boris marched to the lectern outside No 10, in Downing Street bunker, his loyalists were white with rage at the plotters who had brought him down.
RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Boris Johnson has been downed
RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Did any of those treacherous Tory non-entities who helped bring down Boris Johnson experience even the teensiest tinge of regret?
The interesting question is what the Murdoch press will do next. Let’s face it, they have no further need for Boris and at the end of the day he’s Boris so no doubt they’re sitting on a pile of stories and they no longer need him as a useful idiot so I wouldn’t be surprised if all sorts start coming out now or at least stuff we already knew sensationalised into headline news after previously being brushed aside as a nothing to see here.
You say that but over recent months they’ve been pretty anti Johnson in patches…for the Mail anyway.
The problem they appear to have is that they don’t have a clear horse to back. They’re also a bit of a click bait paper, hence the front page, which is an opinion/columnist piece. Same as the guardian, never have anything positive to say and just want people to wallow in misery so they can sell more papers/advertising
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You're not seriously comparing the Guardian to the Mail?!?
May as well compare the Times to them, then!
As in never having anything positive to say as a paper, yeah.
The Times editorial is right leaning but the opinion and columnists usually offer a pretty balanced view taken as a whole
I discount the Telegraph and Express as just pure delusional
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It's not remotely clickbait when compared to the Mail; compare the styling of headlines to the Mail and tell me they're remotely the same, and I'd call you a madman. They also give credit to the vaccine rollout, but do you seriously expect a left leaning paper to be positive about the mess that is Boris Johnson?!? They're positive about Southern Fin Whales and things that deserve positivity!
If you're going to compare the Mail to anything compare it to the Express, it occupies that aspiration to serious journalism, but is in actuality in the gutter with the Sun and the Mirror.
The clickbait comparison was maybe a little over the top. It was meant as in for their readership
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But the Daily Star's OK?
Grendel
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Bizarre cult given the article in question Is written by someone who has been suggesting for years no one should vote Conservative so the party is closed down
Yeah because he thinks the modern Tory party are far left Marxists.
duffer
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Couldn't agree less. The Guardian has a liberal bias, but its articles are generally well researched and factual. Its opinion pieces are flagged clearly as such.
Unlike almost every other paper mentioned, it isn't beholden to rich owners.
If you think the output is miserable, maybe that reflects the actual state of many things in the country and the world.
If you prefer mindless, uncritical, paid-for, right-wing boosterism, then any of the tabloids other than the Mirror should work for you.
The unvarnished reality of British politics and our future direction as a society (or maybe even planet!), especially at the moment, isn't particularly cheerful. It's a bit unfair to blame the few papers that do try to report it honestly.