skybluetony176
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Penny Mordaunt apparently in trouble for duplicity on trans views. The country is spiralling and this bunch of mentalists are worried about someone’s personal views on trans.
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Ian1779
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It’s all the grifters at GB News/LBC/Talkradio whipping up a frenzy about it. Even the Tory voters referenced above by shmmeee don’t seem to see it as a priority.
And the Tory 'Common Sense Group' - can't forget them!
Brighton Sky Blue
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Interesting that they've picked pretty sensible looking priorities but then vote for a party that either doesn't care about or chooses the wrong way to address them.
And they'd probably say the same about the 'other side'
This is more than just mentalists making the point though. This will be Tory dark arts as she’s one of the favourites and certain people hoping it’s a weak spot for her when it comes to support
Liz Truss?
skybluetony176
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Did he say it was a success?
Brighton Sky Blue
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So a perception of being ‘woke’ matters more than her going on more about the flag than substance?
skybluetony176
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You’re probably right, it’s a reflection on the quality of the field.
clint van damme
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Crazy I know but that’s politics
It’s not going to be game changer but it might swing a couple of votes here and there, especially against other candidates with similar policies
Brighton Sky Blue
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To be honest most the Tories I know still want Hunt to win as he’s more socially liberal. Though they are half the age of the average voting member
Sky Blue Pete
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Maybe I’m a dinosaur but I can’t see any of them winning bar Rishi or Jezza
shmmeee
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I think it’s more the honesty thing that doing her here, she’s lied about her position claiming she was doing the opposite of what she actually was.
shmmeee
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I think Mordaunt is the favourite. Sunak and Hunt have too many enemies and Hunt has failed twice already I think and you don’t tend to win after a couple of goes.
clint van damme
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Labour abstained! What shambles
Tory peers vote down plea to extend free school meals to 1.3m extra poor kids
Most children in Year 3 and above are ineligible for free school meals if their household income from work is more than £7,400 a year. Labour was also criticsed for abstaining on the Lords amendment
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It’s strange how badly Hunt polls both with members and the normal world yet you’re not the first person to mention there’s support for him out there. I always think he comes across as pretty credible when I hear him. Maybe a bit dull but I don’t mind that
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You'd think dull would be a blessed relief after the past three years!
He's fallen into the 'cut tax just for the hell of it' trap though. Also seems to be pro Rwanda and pushing through protocol bill, neither of which seem particularly his position, so he's either joined the madmen, or he's being disengenuous to get votes.
Sky Blue Pete
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I don’t agree with her politically but very impressed with her ability to speak in sentences and she’s wound up some of the white men in suits enough for them to be briefing against her for being sensible about trans challenges!
what do you think of her?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Andy Street has backed him I've just seen. In all it's a pretty bleak field with no obvious statesman or woman
shmmeee
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shmmeee
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She’s the closest on a lot of issues, most importantly climate. She’s still a Tory though.
Short term she’s the best choice for the country IMO, long term she’s the worst cos she’d probably beat Labour and continue the destruction of the economy and public services.
I don’t agree with her on the trans issue either, but as she’s got the same position as Labour it might stop us losing a few second wave feminists to the Tories. I’ve seen a lot going on about Badenoch and switching if she wins. But we’re into very online very Twitter stuff at this point and it’s unlikely to have much of an impact electorally. I just personally don’t like the Tories becoming the party of old school feminists.
Yes, whilst I don't agree with her politics, if she wins it will at least be nice to see a PM speak in actual sentences, not dressed like a tramp and not embarrassing themselves on the world stage.
SIR ERNIE
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She's clearly the best candidate.
Is that the Liz Truss ‘just about to take a shit’ pose
I watched the LBC link that was posted yesterday. I thought she came across well. Like with all of them though, a lot will depend on what cabinet she ended up with
I think his support for the Rwanda policy is caveated with opening up some safe asylum centres/routes though.
Id happily take dull and competent
shmmeee
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I think the fact she’s not really been prominent in Johnson’s cabinet will help her, and hopefully means she’ll be fishing in a different pool. If Truss gets it well keep seeing the likes of Patel and Gove hanging around.
Ian1779
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Just can’t see any logic for this decision by Labour - shitheads.Labour abstained! What shambles
Tory peers vote down plea to extend free school meals to 1.3m extra poor kids
Most children in Year 3 and above are ineligible for free school meals if their household income from work is more than £7,400 a year. Labour was also criticsed for abstaining on the Lords amendmentwww.google.com
shmmeee
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Best I can see is they’re working on something as they said and this is a bit of game playing by the Lib Dems. But the optics are terrible and let’s be honest it’s not likely to go anywhere. For me if your opponent is doing something like this you call their bluff.
Philosoraptor
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Nothing say's, 'calling their bluff' better than abstaining on giving free school meals to the poorest in society in the middle of a huge cost of living crisis.
Well done.
shmmeee
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Yes, that was my point.
Philosoraptor
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I must of misread what you typed because I thought you were blaming party politics for Labour not to vote on this?