shmmeee
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Its less about lefty righty and more about experty morony that’s my issue. This stuff:
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Its less about lefty righty and more about experty morony that’s my issue. This stuff:
skybluetony176
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It’s worth watching her lecture in full. One point she did make was on the run up to the referendum in an effort to be impartial/balanced they spent 5 hours looking for a pro brexit economist to go on newsnight and bat for brexit, in contrast in five minutes they could find 60 economists who thought (correctly) that it would be a disaster for the economy. That was never mentioned at the time. Maybe it should have been as it gave a false equivalence to put the one pro brexit economist they could find on an equal footing with 60 other economists.
Sky Blue Pete
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Thanks for sharing it in full
She makes some excellent balanced points aimed at both sides in our country to make the same point really well
Balance does not mean equal time or status to an opinion.
rondog1973
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On R2 they always wheel out some neo-liberal psychopath from the IEA to combat any left of centre view or employee representative in a head to head debate.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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See Rishi's batting his eyelids at the mentalists again.
Fact is most of the absolute shitshow was down to POLITICIANS ignoring experts, like Boris keeping everything open because he thought it was nothing and we'd get the economic boost.
Other things like not bringing in lockdowns were due to pressure from the politicians not wanting to do so.
The last thing a situation like that needs is for a load of people who want and need to play to the crowd to be making the decisions. People that place an inordinate amount of importance to the economy ahead of literally everything else, including lives.
If anything the politicians should be welcoming the experts being given more control, because they get to do the right thing while being able to maintain their public opinion because they can point elsewhere and say it was them.
Experts had too much power over Covid lockdowns, says Rishi Sunak
The ex-chancellor says ministers were banned from talking about negative effects of restrictions.
www.bbc.co.uk
Fact is most of the absolute shitshow was down to POLITICIANS ignoring experts, like Boris keeping everything open because he thought it was nothing and we'd get the economic boost.
Other things like not bringing in lockdowns were due to pressure from the politicians not wanting to do so.
The last thing a situation like that needs is for a load of people who want and need to play to the crowd to be making the decisions. People that place an inordinate amount of importance to the economy ahead of literally everything else, including lives.
If anything the politicians should be welcoming the experts being given more control, because they get to do the right thing while being able to maintain their public opinion because they can point elsewhere and say it was them.
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skybluetony176
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The more she opens her mouth the more batshit crazy she sounds. No wonder she’s the favourite. The traditional Tory party is dead
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
It’s unbelievable she actually said that about one of the country’s closest allies.
shmmeee
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Someone can’t be ‘too criminal’ to be PM but they can be ‘too boring’?
news.sky.com
Emmanuel Macron responds after Liz Truss says 'jury is out' on whether he is 'friend or foe' - as PM calls French president a 'tres bon buddy'
The frontrunner to be the next prime minister said the "jury is out" on when asked if the French president is a "friend or foe" but that if she becomes leader, she will "judge him by deeds, not words".
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
She’s the best news Labour has had in ages.Someone can’t be ‘too criminal’ to be PM but they can be ‘too boring’?
Emmanuel Macron responds after Liz Truss says 'jury is out' on whether he is 'friend or foe' - as PM calls French president a 'tres bon buddy'
The frontrunner to be the next prime minister said the "jury is out" on when asked if the French president is a "friend or foe" but that if she becomes leader, she will "judge him by deeds, not words".
Brighton Sky Blue
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If they were being very selfish they’d say the economic situation hitting so many people is as big an advantage. Though what odds on Truss basically acting as a placeholder for the clown to return to the stage some time before the next election?
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
I genuinely wouldn't be surprised - he would have the audacity to do it as well.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Nobody from the pro Clown side would stand against him and he still has a lot of popularity with the membership. The only way I don’t see it happening is if Labour manage to unseat him in a by-election. Which I reckon they could if they really went for it
Brighton Sky Blue
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Seems like the Italians are set to appoint their own version
skybluetony176
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Posties on strike today. I voiced my support to ours yesterday.
Brighton Sky Blue
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We’ve had enough of experts Mk 2
Experts had too much power over Covid lockdowns, says Rishi Sunak
The ex-chancellor says ministers were banned from talking about negative effects of restrictions.
www.bbc.co.uk
skybluetony176
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Who’s in the running this time?
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Someone can’t be ‘too criminal’ to be PM but they can be ‘too boring’?
Emmanuel Macron responds after Liz Truss says 'jury is out' on whether he is 'friend or foe' - as PM calls French president a 'tres bon buddy'
The frontrunner to be the next prime minister said the "jury is out" on when asked if the French president is a "friend or foe" but that if she becomes leader, she will "judge him by deeds, not words".
All our problems as a country stem from when we decided polcitians were entertainers and not statesmen and I will die on this hill.
Could you imagine hiring an accountant cos he looked like a decent bloke to have a p
What happened with the rumours of a recall petition of something happened with was it the standards committee? I wasn’t really paying attention but recall hearing something.
Brighton Sky Blue
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There’s a far right coalition being spearheaded by Trussolini
shmmeee
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We’ve had enough of experts Mk 2
Experts had too much power over Covid lockdowns, says Rishi Sunak
The ex-chancellor says ministers were banned from talking about negative effects of restrictions.www.bbc.co.uk
They’re a bunch of cranks and conspiracy theorists, of course they’re sick of experts.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Yeah, Meloni is vile - luckily the coalition will stop her from having free rein though and the coalition system means that nothing substantial actually changes - her party is only a couple of % ahead of the left-wing party but there's no chance of them getting in with the right coalition.
skybluetony176
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Currently have our military on joint manoeuvres with theirs. Which has been a constant for decades and rightly so. It’s just more red meat for the nutters.
Brighton Sky Blue
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If he is found to have misled Parliament he can have a by-election triggered by x % of his constituents. Though I thought that was a rule anyway which was used to oust that Labour MP in Peterborough
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I'd join you on that hill, if it didn't have resonances of Northampton. It really us the root of all our problems, the idea that if you are popular you are right.
Of course it’s not just this country, although it feels like the damage is greater here . Maybe though that is because we see the impact more. Maybe if I lived in Brazil, I feel the effects of Bolsonaro were even greater.
skybluetony176
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clint van damme
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'Where's my mail you bone idle wanker'
clint van damme
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While promising to invest heavily in the scientific sector a couple of days before, what an absolute tosser he is.
skybluetony176
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Word for word
Brighton Sky Blue
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Let the bodies pile high
We did all we could
We bought the vaccines first
Professor Lockdown
There were no parties
Dido Harding needs the billions
JAM See
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Philosoraptor
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There's always a real problem when members of political parties actually rub shoulders with the public.
I apologise if this has already been shared.
I apologise if this has already been shared.
David O'Day
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Tories would be mad to have him back as he is electoral cancer and that isn't changing any time soon.
But it is the tories so wouldn't put it past them, a lot of the new tories are dead in the water next election unless they can somehow repeat 2019