SlowerThanPlatt
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Fuck me.
Heads out of arses (27 Viewers)
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clint van damme
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Biamou and Baka were 3rd and 4th choice albeit they played more than were expected.
But that aside, our biggest issue that season was defence.
And there's only 1 or 2 posters who haven't expressed real concern at whats been going on so far this season, but they are correct to point out that our positions skewed by games played and the fact only one has been at home.
There's a long way to go yet, though I think it's going to be a real slog.
Biamou and Baka were 3rd and 4th choice albeit they played more than were expected.
But that aside, our biggest issue that season was defence.
And there's only 1 or 2 posters who haven't expressed real concern at whats been going on so far this season, but they are correct to point out that our positions skewed by games played and the fact only one has been at home.
There's a long way to go yet, though I think it's going to be a real slog.
If we can survive with Baka, Biamou and Shipley then I think we can survive with Gyokeres, Godden and Sheaf
mark82
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You're having a proper flounce tonight, aren't you?
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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I think if we were where we are having played the same number of games as the other teams we'd look upon this as a desperate situation..
However, the fact is that we have three games in hand and while I would love to believe we can be win them all that looks very unlikely. That means that we are likely to be in the bottom 3 for some considerable time.
However, the fact is that we have three games in hand and while I would love to believe we can be win them all that looks very unlikely. That means that we are likely to be in the bottom 3 for some considerable time.
Sick Boy
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Exactly, we beat Arsenal at home in 1999, so I expect us to exceed @Paxman II 's predictions by the end of the season.
Hobo
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Yes we have season tickets too. The table doesn't lie but you have to look at it with perspective. Same with statistics. Their is possession and their is possession where it doesn't hurt people for instance.
It is far too early in the given circumstances to give up. Some of our fans appear to be willing the team to failure?
ccfc922
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I would probably agree 100%, except we've played 1 home game. So our season is completely disrupted.
I will judge us after the international break (hoping O’Hare returns) til the World Cup then panic.
cowboy1850
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I don't feel like I'm willing failure or chucking in the towel but I want to see changes being made.
We need one or two free transfers to sure up the defence and give a bit of stability. We also need Robins to start utilising subs earlier. He said we have a weak squad, how's it going to get better when you rely on the same eleven?
And then when the transfer window reopens we need to make big decisions on if having Hamer/Gyokeres/O'Hare is taking us forwards or if some players need to be sold.
We need one or two free transfers to sure up the defence and give a bit of stability. We also need Robins to start utilising subs earlier. He said we have a weak squad, how's it going to get better when you rely on the same eleven?
And then when the transfer window reopens we need to make big decisions on if having Hamer/Gyokeres/O'Hare is taking us forwards or if some players need to be sold.
shmmeee
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On subs, people have always said this and we’ve always had a record of finishing strongly and coming back into games so not sure it’s justified TBH. Just chucking a kid or a crock on for half an hour won’t always change the game.
cowboy1850
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But across a whole season of 46+ games? We fell away last season and our form fell apart.
Brighton Sky Blue
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As to be honest is comparing the managers. Thorn really only has Slade to rival him as the worst since 2001.
Philosoraptor
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If not, you could always start a supporter's group and then completely ignore them when you push your own agenda.
shmmeee
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This is about the Glicko meme isn’t it?
Hobo
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We all know, we are on a bad run. We have a lot of points to make up. The squad is small. We had no money to buy players.
It is going to be tough. Very tough.
But you dont knee jerk in this situation every 5 minutes to get out of it. You commit to the long haul.
I have more faith in Robins, the coaches and the players to get us up the table than what I hear from a lot of our fans.
It is going to be tough. Very tough.
But you dont knee jerk in this situation every 5 minutes to get out of it. You commit to the long haul.
I have more faith in Robins, the coaches and the players to get us up the table than what I hear from a lot of our fans.
Finham
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You played the same team the week after? Keraaaazy!
Does feel big to me. I think we cab get out of it but more like a 6-4 shot
SlowerThanPlatt
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Boro were awful last night and Wilder must now be under serious pressure, if we’re banking on home form then we simply have to win.
Grendel
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If we win he will be getting his P45 for sure
I love this notion that for some the good start to last season doesn't count.
And we were apparently terrible for the rest of last season according to many.
Last 10 games of last season we were 17th
Last 20: 13th
30: 18th
It's been a shit start to this season, no one is denying that.
But the idea that we started well last season and then were in relegation form for the remainder is absolute rubbish.
I know my guy @Evo1883 will back me up on this
Fergusons_Beard
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What’s seriously pissing me off about this is that lack of team spirit.
Not by the players but by the fucking fans.
Fans who have absolutely no idea what we’re up against, how far we’ve come and how good our management team is.
Most of them are professional mood-hovers who love nothing better than remind us all how shit we are and constantly target any hint of a mistake or underperformance.
Not saying we should all put rose tinted glasses on but for fucks sake have a bit of perspective.
Not a single player was terrible yesterday-we plugged away had some good chances and got a well deserved point away from home.
That’s it.
If we’d have lost 4-0-That’s a time for slinging shit.
But yesterday was most definitely not a time for histrionics but a time to support our players and team.
Whatever we think of the owners it doesn’t mean fuck all-Robins has to deal with what he’s got and so do we.
So maybe fuck the knee jerk reactions off and the lame stats and support this team when they need it most.
Because they really do need us right now-we’ve shown how much our support can galvanise our team.
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Not by the players but by the fucking fans.
Fans who have absolutely no idea what we’re up against, how far we’ve come and how good our management team is.
Most of them are professional mood-hovers who love nothing better than remind us all how shit we are and constantly target any hint of a mistake or underperformance.
Not saying we should all put rose tinted glasses on but for fucks sake have a bit of perspective.
Not a single player was terrible yesterday-we plugged away had some good chances and got a well deserved point away from home.
That’s it.
If we’d have lost 4-0-That’s a time for slinging shit.
But yesterday was most definitely not a time for histrionics but a time to support our players and team.
Whatever we think of the owners it doesn’t mean fuck all-Robins has to deal with what he’s got and so do we.
So maybe fuck the knee jerk reactions off and the lame stats and support this team when they need it most.
Because they really do need us right now-we’ve shown how much our support can galvanise our team.
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GIMOC
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I love this notion that for some the good start to last season doesn't count.
And we were apparently terrible for the rest of last season according to many.
Last 10 games of last season we were 17th
Last 20: 13th
30: 18th
It's been a shit start to this season, no one is denying that.
But the idea that we started well last season and then were in relegation form for the remainder is absolute rubbish.
I know my guy @Evo1883 will back me up on this
ok, since Fulham game (the 4-1 at home) we’ve played 42 games and accumulated 45 points. That’s relegation form no matter which way you look at it. What part of that is rubbish?
Yeah, because of the awful last 7 games.
The form in the last 7 games, ie this season, is obviously catastrophic. Nobody is denying that.
The form before then is perfectly fine.
Obviously if you conveniently take away the good start of last season and add the bad start of this season the long term form is terrible
GIMOC
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Yeah, because of the awful last 7 games.
The form in the last 7 games, ie this season, is obviously catastrophic. Nobody is denying that.
The form before then is perfectly fine.
Obviously if you conveniently take away the good start of last season and add the bad start of this season the long term form is terrible
what the fuck you talking about? I’m not conveniently taking anything away. Basing it on a string of 42 games (basically a season) showing how bad the form overall has been. Look at the past 17 games, only 3 wins. Take it you take that as acceptable?
clint van damme
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Yeah, because of the awful last 7 games.
The form in the last 7 games, ie this season, is obviously catastrophic. Nobody is denying that.
The form before then is perfectly fine.
Obviously if you conveniently take away the good start of last season and add the bad start of this season the long term form is terrible
we had 3 defeats in the last 7, 2 against teams who were promoted and 1 against a team who made the play offs.
We also beat the champions elect in their own back yard!
The final game against Stoke was a total training exercise for both teams.
Grendel
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We have been consistently average 10 - 12 points a game every every chunk of 10 games since the first 10
I've said numerous times the form this season is dreadful, no one is denying that.
And yes you are conveniently taking something away.
Why 42 games? What sort of cut off is that? If you want to make it 46 games ie a season then it's 52 points, comfortably clear of relegation. And that includes the worst start to a season in a hundred years or whatever it is.