Hamer (3 Viewers)

[long way home]

Couple of u21 games before our next league game. So could be interesting to see who and how they line up. Could see Palmer, Kane and Kelly at some point as all will need minutes in the legs.

 

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[SlowerThanPlatt]

Hey Todd, I know we spent months on end trying to get you out the club, but nobody was interested so…fancy playing in Hamer’s position for a few weeks?

I think there was one club in for him but they couldn’t afford his wages, which is concerning in itself

 

[Gint11]

I like Gus, I genuinely do but he doesn’t play well enough for long enough and his disciplinary record is dog shit and he is inadvertently putting strain on team by missing games.

We can all say it was harsh and a coming together but he needs to wise up and stop giving refs the need to make a decision.

He needs to learn the dark arts of central midfield if this is to improve. I’d also fine him wages. How many straws we on?

 

[shmmeee]

I like Gus, I genuinely do but he doesn’t play well enough for long enough and his disciplinary record is dog shit and he is inadvertently putting strain on team by missing games.

We can all say it was harsh and a coming together but he needs to wise up and stop giving refs the need to make a decision.

He needs to learn the dark arts of central midfield if this is to improve. I’d also fine him wages. How many straws we on?

Dropping Hamer for any of the reserve CMs would be the definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

 

[Nick]

I haven't paid much attention but did Robins mention the red card or are we appealing it?

 

[Frostie]

I haven't paid much attention but did Robins mention the red card or are we appealing it?

Of course we're not.
Said Hamer "needs to learn" & that his discipline is "absolutely ridiculous"

 

[Nick]

Of course we're not.
Said Hamer "needs to learn" & that his discipline is is "absolutely ridiculous"

You would hope that as a manager it would be something worked on.

 

[Frostie]

You would hope that as a manager it would be something worked on.

Agree to a point but how much can he do?

I agree with Robins that the last couple of games that... "in fairness to him he has been trying to do the right things in terms of working harder to get behind the ball rather than fouling."
I have always said that's been Hamer's biggest weakness & probably what stops him getting a Prem move. Not even just the yellow cards/fouls part of it but how much he exposes the team. Noticeably improved last couple of games though.

But not really sure what a manager can do about the red mist stuff?
"Hey Gus, next time someone tackles you cleanly, try not to aim 3 kicks at their head in retaliation"?

 

[Nick]

Agree to a point but how much can he do?

I agree with Robins that the last couple of games that... "in fairness to him he has been trying to do the right things in terms of working harder to get behind the ball rather than fouling."
I have always said that's been Hamer's biggest weakness & probably what stops him getting a Prem move. Not even just the yellow cards/fouls part of it but how much he exposes the team. Noticeably improved last couple of games though.

But not really sure what a manager can do about the red mist stuff?
"Hey Gus, next time someone tackles you cleanly, try not to aim 3 kicks at their head in retaliation"?

All of his red cards and bookings are shit, it's not even as if he takes bookings for the team or smashes their best player in a 50/50.

He is easy to target and play against and generally as a team we don't do much in the way of winding up opposition players like him. We see them get booked and then just stand about nicey nicey.

 

[covcity4life]

Yep and I have hit one or two 180s on a dart board. Haven't done it for years.

He scored more than one or two goals last season. Ridiculous. Class player

 

[long way home]

They spotted him playing as a RWB maybe put him there. Might keep him out of trouble until it all calms down. He is too good not to be involved thats for sure.

 

[Liquid Gold]

I'd rather his wages were spent on two CMs who were more consistent than him. Not a higher peaks but also not as low troughs and disciplinary records that didn't fuck up the small squad we have.

Giving him a bumper contract was a huge mistake in retrospect.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I'd rather his wages were spent on two CMs who were more consistent than him. Not a higher peaks but also not as low troughs and disciplinary records that didn't fuck up the small squad we have.

Giving him a bumper contract was a huge mistake in retrospect.

Not taking the offer for him was the biggest mistake of all.

 

[rob9872]

Not taking the offer perhaps, but giving the contract wasn't the issue as it increases his worth both to outside sources and on the balance sheet.

 

[hill83]

You lot all need to stop being so mean.
He got sent off to get the fine and help the club out financially.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Agree to a point but how much can he do?

I agree with Robins that the last couple of games that... "in fairness to him he has been trying to do the right things in terms of working harder to get behind the ball rather than fouling."
I have always said that's been Hamer's biggest weakness & probably what stops him getting a Prem move. Not even just the yellow cards/fouls part of it but how much he exposes the team. Noticeably improved last couple of games though.

But not really sure what a manager can do about the red mist stuff?
"Hey Gus, next time someone tackles you cleanly, try not to aim 3 kicks at their head in retaliation"?

To a degree, I think you have to accept the slight insanity now and again as the price you pay for giving him an edge. If you can take the rest down and minimise that, then at least you're just holding your head in your hands a bit less frequently... but he needs that bite for him to play at full throttle.

 

[OldBedrocker]

Doesn't really excuse Hamer thrashing his legs around-it was naive at best

True

 

[Gint11]

Dropping Hamer for any of the reserve CMs would be the definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

I like Gus, I genuinely do but he doesn’t play well enough for long enough and his disciplinary record is dog shit and he is inadvertently putting strain on team by missing games.

We can all say it was harsh and a coming together but he needs to wise up and stop giving refs the need to make a decision.

He needs to learn the dark arts of central midfield if this is to improve. I’d also fine him wages. How many straws we on?

I didn’t say to drop him. I said I’d fine him.

 

[shmmeee]

I didn’t say to drop him. I said I’d fine him.

Apologies you did indeed, I did that internet thing of replying to one person plus a bunch in my head.

 

[Gint11]

Apologies you did indeed, I did that internet thing of replying to one person plus a bunch in my head.

Apologies you did indeed, I did that internet thing of replying to one person plus a bunch in my head.

Strike 1. Anymore and you’re off my Xmas card list!

 

[Frostie]

Apologies you did indeed, I did that internet thing of replying to one person plus a bunch in my head.

What's gone on here? You've spotted that you made an error, held your hands up & apologised??
This is the internet, you're supposed to double down & deflect, ya dafty!

 

[fernandopartridge]

Agree to a point but how much can he do?

I agree with Robins that the last couple of games that... "in fairness to him he has been trying to do the right things in terms of working harder to get behind the ball rather than fouling."
I have always said that's been Hamer's biggest weakness & probably what stops him getting a Prem move. Not even just the yellow cards/fouls part of it but how much he exposes the team. Noticeably improved last couple of games though.

But not really sure what a manager can do about the red mist stuff?
"Hey Gus, next time someone tackles you cleanly, try not to aim 3 kicks at their head in retaliation"?

It probably should also be recognised that aggression is an important part of his makeup as well so it can't be tempered too much

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Own a piece of CCFC history

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[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Couple of u21 games before our next league game. So could be interesting to see who and how they line up. Could see Palmer, Kane and Kelly at some point as all will need minutes in the legs.

Maybe even O’hare

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Maybe even O’hare

Next is Birmingham away on Monday, should be a stream

 

[lord_garrincha]

Next is Birmingham away on Monday, should be a stream

More likely canals.

 

[Greggs]

Since he's been here, I reckon we've won more games without him in the side.

 

[fatso]

Since he's been here, I reckon we've won more games without him in the side.

Interesting thought, I'd like to know the stats.
With Eccles playing well today, and O'hare and Kelly back in full training, not to mention Palmer lookin good, I think Hamer is going to have to battle for his place, which hasn't happened before!

 

[pusbccfc]

Since he's been here, I reckon we've won more games without him in the side.

A quick search shows Hamer has a points per game of 1.41 last season.

Higher than Allen (1.34), Sheaf (1.31) and Godden (1.38) for example.

 

[pusbccfc]

Interesting thought, I'd like to know the stats.
With Eccles playing well today, and O'hare and Kelly back in full training, not to mention Palmer lookin good, I think Hamer is going to have to battle for his place, which hasn't happened before!

Which may give him a kick up the arse and will result in him proving his has more ability than all of those above.

 

[lord_garrincha]

Which may give him a kick up the arse

He'll probably try to do that himself if there's no one around him.

 

[junglej13]

He's a brilliant player. Does things the others don't. Good to have a few options in that position.

 

[lord_garrincha]

A quick search shows Hamer has a points per game of 1.41 last season.

Higher than Allen (1.34), Sheaf (1.31) and Godden (1.38) for example.

Still... He's not at the Chris Whyte level.

 

[Greggs]

He's a brilliant player. Does things the others don't. Good to have a few options in that position.

probably the only player that goes on the piss in town every weekend, you're right.

 

[SkyblueDad]

What’s wrong with that ?