Match Thread ⚽️ Cardiff City vs Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 15th Oct (1 Viewer)

[shmmeee]

I'd be OK with that just don't think he should be able to start immediately after letting his teammates down in a not insignificant way

Its just cutting our nose off to spite our face though. The drop to Eccles or Allen is huge. And his team mates have had a month to let him know how they feel. Surely they’d prefer the three points?

 

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[PVA]

The last time Hamer got suspended he was on the bench for his first game back as a punishment.

You could see Eccles starting based on that and his performance today, but then Hamer will be a lot fresher than Eccles.

Maybe he'll surprise us and give Sheaf a rest!

 

[Greggs]

I'll be disgusted if Hamer strolls back into the side, your place should be earned, not gifted.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Its just cutting our nose off to spite our face though. The drop to Eccles or Allen is huge. And his team mates have had a month to let him know how they feel. Surely they’d prefer the three points?

You can also argue he's been out for a long enough time to be a bit too rusty to start. That and it's Sheff U who will be experts at getting under his skin. Bring him on second half sure but I don't want a 5 game ban by half time

 

[skybluepm2]

Robins has lost the plot. We need to get rid of him

Hard luck. Try again next week. Gimp.

How is your quest for understanding why our fanbase dislikes wasps going? Cracked the code yet?

 

[Frostie]

The Cardiff commentators speculated that him having to play it made the player active in that phase.

Yeah, they're wrong. His mere presence isn't enough, he has to actually challenge for it or make some other action which disrupts Fadz's ability to play it. He didn't, Fadz misjudged it.
Brave but correct call by the lino imo.

As above I can only think Madley thinks Fadz hasn't touched it or that it has just inadvertently deflected off him rather than him deliberately playing it.

 

[Seaside-Skyblue]

I think if we had Hamer and O'Hare up until this point in season (Given Hamers missed a few) I'd perhaps be slightly concerned, but the fact we've adapted like we have i.e tightened up in general over the last 5 games or so without them and achieved some good results is what gives me some confidence that we should be ok this season and no reason why we can't achieve similar to last season. When they are back we should in theory improve further. And credit to Robins for adapting. Stay up this season probably needs to be priority still followed by a rebuild in Summer. Like everyone points out though, keeping everyone in January is paramount.

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[Hutch11]

Just got back , we sang all game and more and the team responded and fully deserved the win

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

I'll be disgusted if Hamer strolls back into the side, your place should be earned, not gifted.

We've surely got to rotate the squad though.

 

[Gibbo]

Five games and only two goals conceded. You should not get relegated on that form if it continues. Robins was forced into what was obvious to all that today notwithstanding the best back three is Doyle - MacFadz-Panzo.

Big leaks of goals have ceased once Hyam went - (dons tin hat)

 

[Jamesimus]

On the decision to substitute Callum Doyle...

“It’s difficult for anyone to come off, let alone in the first half and I honestly thought he was carrying something.

“He’s a young lad learning and if you’re not at the races, and he wasn’t, he was off it a little, it’s not a criticism.

Only just seen this and posted a thread about it!

 

[Tommo1993]

Finally home and washed.

Not been Fadz biggest fan this season but thought he was a rock today. Same with Eccles, wasn’t too keen on him playing but he’s a big contender for my MOTM, much better in that role and he was braver than he has been previously. Allen had an alright game, Dabo perhaps had one of his weaker games. Wilson not properly tested.

Today wasn’t going to win over any neutrals, but we had more to offer than them and we deserved to win. Hopefully we can build on it.

 

[pusbccfc]

Five games and only two goals conceded. You should not get relegated on that form if it continues. Robins was forced into what was obvious to all that today notwithstanding the best back three is Doyle - MacFadz-Panzo.

Big leaks of goals have ceased once Hyam went - (dons tin hat)

1 goal conceded in 5 and a half matches. Maybe letting Hyam go for £1.5m wasn't that bad after all?

 

[mark82]

He was in an offside position at that point but commited no offence. He only becomes active when playing the ball which came off Fadz - it should have stood.

Yeah, that's not how the offside rule works though.

 

[pusbccfc]

Yeah, that's not how the offside rule works though.

Yep. Someone on the Cardiff forum explain the rule and admitted it was offside. A really good decision from the officials.

 

[mark82]

That can be his only interpretation but he clearly means to play it imo.

He doesn't mean to play it backwards, and it only hits him because he's trying to stop the ball going through. If he'd deliberately passed back to Wilson it's offside, but that isn't what happened.

 

[mark82]

Was Gyokeres offside for our goal? Looked it on one of the replays I've seen.

 

[Frostie]

He doesn't mean to play it backwards, and it only hits him because he's trying to stop the ball going through. If he'd deliberately passed back to Wilson it's offside, but that isn't what happened.

Irrelevant, he deliberately plays the ball.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Palmer's aggression was brilliant. We've needed that.

Palmer was excellent again.

Hes done so well in every game hes played as far can remember.

Surprised me tbf.

 

[mark82]

Irrelevant, he deliberately plays the ball.

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He didn't deliberately play the ball.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

I think he will start Hamer against them

Rightly so.

 

[shmmeee]

Yeah, they're wrong. His mere presence isn't enough, he has to actually challenge for it or make some other action which disrupts Fadz's ability to play it. He didn't, Fadz misjudged it.
Brave but correct call by the lino imo.

As above I can only think Madley thinks Fadz hasn't touched it or that it has just inadvertently deflected off him rather than him deliberately playing it.

I don’t know the ins and outs of the law these days, but I can’t see how it’s a separate phase of play TBH. He was offside when the ball came in. But I’m old school and can accept this may not be the current rule.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

I don't think anyone has suggested we wouldn't be in the shit if we sold Gyokeres

Why are we again focussing on negatives after an great win.?

Wheres this line of conversation come from? Let me guess...lol

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Play Hamer and he'll get sent off, don't play him and it looks impotent. If only we had a dynamic central midfielder who wasn't the easiest to wind up in the division

Lol

 

[Londonccfcfan]

I think we are violently agreeing. Especially on the back of a win today. We do need to be able to rotate but shouldn't be an instant kick out to put Hamer back in.

Hamer walks back into the team. Hes one the best midfielders of his type in the division. Well done eccles today. Now take take step back to bench.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Hamer walks back into the team. Hes one the best midfielders of his type in the division. Well done eccles today. Now take take step back to bench.

The only place he’s been walking recently is off the pitch head in hands

 

[Frostie]

He didn't deliberately play the ball.

That's the debate.
You said he didn't mean to play it backwards but as mentioned that's not important. Neither is whether he makes proper contact, miscontrols it or whatever he simply has to make a deliberate play for the ball & there's plenty of examples of similar goals that have stood.

It's a very bold decision from Madley, I'm not sure what he thinks Fadz is doing if not trying to play the ball? It's gone in our favour today but I'd be very disappointed if the shoe was on the other foot & Robins agrees:
"We had a bit of luck with the goal that was disallowed. We got away with that."

 

[Ghosty]

The only place he’s been walking recently is off the pitch head in hands

And into the casino

 

[Londonccfcfan]

The only place he’s been walking recently is off the pitch head in hands

So you think Josh Eccles has taken his place? Lmfao.

 

[Frostie]

I don’t know the ins and outs of the law these days, but I can’t see how it’s a separate phase of play TBH. He was offside when the ball came in. But I’m old school and can accept this may not be the current rule.

Current interpretation of it is shit no doubt but yeah, if it's deemed Fadz deliberately plays the ball then the goal should stand.

 

[Tommo1993]

Hamer walks back into the team. Hes one the best midfielders of his type in the division. Well done eccles today. Now take take step back to bench.

Other than hothead, what is his type?

 

[mark82]

That's the debate.
You said he didn't mean to play it backwards but as mentioned that's not important. Neither is whether he makes proper contact, miscontrols it or whatever he simply has to make a deliberate play for the ball & there's plenty of examples of similar goals that have stood.

It's a very bold decision from Madley, I'm not sure what he thinks Fadz is doing if not trying to play the ball? It's gone in our favour today but I'd be very disappointed if the shoe was on the other foot & Robins agrees:
"We had a bit of luck with the goal that was disallowed. We got away with that."

I'll have to watch it again.

 

[shmmeee]

That's the debate.
You said he didn't mean to play it backwards but as mentioned that's not important. Neither is whether he makes proper contact, miscontrols it or whatever he simply has to make a deliberate play for the ball & there's plenty of examples of similar goals that have stood.

It's a very bold decision from Madley, I'm not sure what he thinks Fadz is doing if not trying to play the ball? It's gone in our favour today but I'd be very disappointed if the shoe was on the other foot & Robins agrees:
"We had a bit of luck with the goal that was disallowed. We got away with that."

Unless it’s a save your link says, so you can argue he’s trying to save the ball near the goal, not play it to a team mate.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

My concern today is we should have put that game to bed. We had by far the better clear cut chances. Vik on another could have had a hat trick.

 

[Hutch11]

Offside or not who gives a shit , we got the decision, we got the 3 pts and we got the croaky voices