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PVA

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Support for Johnson is waning, looks like it'll be little Rishi.

Best result for the country I guess, though I would've enjoyed seeing Johnson getting utterly annihilated at an election.
 

djr8369

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Support for Johnson is waning, looks like it'll be little Rishi.

Best result for the country I guess, though I would've enjoyed seeing Johnson getting utterly annihilated at an election.
BBC reporting he has hit 100. If he goes for it he’s back. Unbelievable.
 

PVA

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BBC reporting he has hit 100. If he goes for it he’s back. Unbelievable.

According to 'sources'. Actual backers is much lower. It's possibly a case of leaking that to try and create some momentum for people to jump on the bandwagon. Other Tory MPs say it's nonsense he has 100.

Nobody knows really
 

djr8369

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According to 'sources'. Actual backers is much lower. It's possibly a case of leaking that to try and create some momentum for people to jump on the bandwagon. Other Tory MPs say it's nonsense he has 100.

Nobody knows really
Yeah they rowed it back after. Looks like it’s as you say, a ruse to try and get a few more votes over the line. Desperate move which makes me think it’s all over and Sunak takes it without the vote being needed.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Obviously this won't apply across the board but it seems that in terms of social issues they're to the left but things like wealth are more important to them. But I guess when they've very little prospect of getting on the property ladder etc stuff like that will matter to them.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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There seems to be a real push to get that cretin Johnson back in. If he does he will be ridiculous as he will think he is indestructible and just continue to do what he wants and take the piss out of the British public.
Part of me feels (or maybe hopes) that that would be the straw that broke the camels back and we'd actually start seeing movement - protests, civil disobedience etc.
 

wingy

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Obviously this won't apply across the board but it seems that in terms of social issues they're to the left but things like wealth are more important to them. But I guess when they've very little prospect of getting on the property ladder etc stuff like that will matter to them.
The reality show style of Boris' presentation would surely appeal to them as well.
 

wingy

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Some pundits on sky this afternoon carrying on that the market is too powerful and plenty of shit for the Central Banks.
Now of course Pension funds are free currently to buy bonds/gilts but I'd wary of the desire/, direction of both Boris and Sunak trying to drive/ induce the industry to direct it into British /home ventures without a veto regards risk of doing this personally.
 

skybluetony176

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Some suggestion tonight that Boris’ team are trying to bullshit there way to 100 votes by saying they’ve already got 100. The idea it builds momentum. Trouble is MP’s that would have been considered a given for Boris are lining up to to back Rishi Sunak. Obviously we won’t know until we know but Boris bullshitting for personal gain is bang on form.
 

Otis

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Some suggestion tonight that Boris’ team are trying to bullshit there way to 100 votes by saying they’ve already got 100. The idea it builds momentum. Trouble is MP’s that would have been considered a given for Boris are lining up to to back Rishi Sunak. Obviously we won’t know until we know but Boris bullshitting for personal gain is bang on form.
Boris lying? Surely not. 😳😱

What an absolute shock.
 

duffer

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Can Johnson actually make a return? It’s a disgrace that he’s even being considered - he really has no shame.

I'm moving to the opinion that I'd quite like him back. Show the Tory party for what they really are, corrupt, incompetent, and chaotic.

It might be the fastest way to get to a general election. Just a thought...
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Can Johnson actually make a return? It’s a disgrace that he’s even being considered - he really has no shame.

It'll be the fastest way of getting a Labour government. Sunak will erode the current lead and generally steady the ship-the country in the short term needs Sunak, in the long term it probably bizarrely needs Boris
 

CCFCSteve

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Some suggestion tonight that Boris’ team are trying to bullshit there way to 100 votes by saying they’ve already got 100. The idea it builds momentum. Trouble is MP’s that would have been considered a given for Boris are lining up to to back Rishi Sunak. Obviously we won’t know until we know but Boris bullshitting for personal gain is bang on form.

Spot on. Read an article yesterday talking about this and how Truss (Johnson) supporters bluffed Truss to victory by overstating her support and popularity and that this is what’s going on with Johnson now. MPs/members just jump on the bandwagon. Embarrassing really if true, but wouldn’t surprise me
 

skybluetony176

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Someone has just pointed out that team Boris keep listing Shaun Bailey on their list as a backer. Shaun Bailey is a member of the London assembly not a member of parliament. He doesn’t have a vote. Might be some merit to this Bullshitting the numbers story.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Spot on. Read an article yesterday talking about this and how Truss (Johnson) supporters bluffed Truss to victory by overstating her support and popularity and that this is what’s going on with Johnson now. MPs/members just jump on the bandwagon. Embarrassing really if true, but wouldn’t surprise me

They all just go with who they think is the winning horse and then who offers them the better Cabinet positions. Reminds me of that quote from Catch Me If You Can:

Why do the Yankees always win? Because the other teams can't stop staring at the pinstripes
 

PVA

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Sums the man up that he's been on holiday for 3 months, not bothering to serve his constituency, not bothering to turn up to parliament. As soon as there's a hint of power and personal gain he jumps on the plane.

He is interested in one thing and one thing only, himself. It's absurd that people genuinely think he has their interests at heart. Anyone who genuinely believes that is frankly fucking thick.
 
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It'll be the fastest way of getting a Labour government. Sunak will erode the current lead and generally steady the ship-the country in the short term needs Sunak, in the long term it probably bizarrely needs Boris
Not sure how Sunak will come across during an election campaign. I don't care that he has money (does he want to buy a football club?), but he does say things every now and again that are out of touch with the average working man. The non Dom and US stuff is an easy stick, too.

I'd have been (relatively!) comfortable with him as leader, but his desperate lurch to the right towards the end of the last contest to curry favour suggests he isn't that principled himself!
 

Philosoraptor

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The fifth horseman of the apocalypse, Steve Baker, has come out for Sunak.

One thinks he was made Northern Ireland secretary to get him as far away from Westminster as possible.
 

Terry_dactyl

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Sums the man up that he's been on holiday for 3 months, not bothering to serve his constituency, not bothering to turn up to parliament. As soon as there's a hint of power and personal gain he jumps on the plane.

He is interested in one thing and one thing only, himself. It's absurd that people genuinely think he has their interests at heart. Anyone who genuinely believes that is frankly fucking thick.
I’m not sure that people do think he cares about them. Just that he’s perceived as a ‘winner’ and someone who wont take any shitso will get us the best deal/won’t be bossed around etc etc etc.
All absolute horseshit of course.
It’s the same bollocks that was fed to get us out of Europe…”I don’t want someone telling me what to do/here’s someone who won’t have people telling him what he’s got to do”.
It’s the stuff of pantomime.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Not sure how Sunak will come across during an election campaign. I don't care that he has money (does he want to buy a football club?), but he does say things every now and again that are out of touch with the average working man. The non Dom and US stuff is an easy stick, too.

I'd have been (relatively!) comfortable with him as leader, but his desperate lurch to the right towards the end of the last contest to curry favour suggests he isn't that principled himself!

I think he has a grip on economic reality that the others don’t. Though like the others, he wants to smash the unions even more and would probably try to revoke the right to strike
 

PVA

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Fucking hell. The absolute brass neck on these pricks.

Within 24 hours of becoming chancellor he demanded Johnson's resignation. Now he thinks that stepping down for covering for a sex offender and ruining the government's reputation is an example of getting the big calls right?

Just unbelievable. The contempt they have for the general public. Imagine voting for people like this.


 

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