Mike Ashley Takeover …Ready and Waiting (11 Viewers)

[Liquid Gold]

Let's not forget that Newcastle's success prior to Ashley was built on building huge piles of unsustainable debt.

£100m hiding behind the sofa along with all the other stuff they knew about?

He knows the money is the PL and the Championship is a money pit. I have no doubt we could be a Saints/Palace type team under him.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s interesting really. A split between those in favour of a hedge fund manager we hadn’t heard of less than 24 hours ago, and those preferring somebody who committed over £250 million to a club and ultimately agreed to sell up as soon as the fans told him he wasn’t wanted.

Having the club and stadium under the same owner makes it far easier to not get in this situation again and the level of investment required to give us a promotion tilt is a long way off what’s needed to get us into the top 4 in the country.

 

[rexo87]

First things first Mike, get those Wasps badges down

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Might come back if he gets a haircut

Better?

 

[SBT]

It’s interesting really. A split between those in favour of a hedge fund manager we hadn’t heard of less than 24 hours ago, and those preferring somebody who committed over £250 million to a club and ultimately agreed to sell up as soon as the fans told him he wasn’t wanted.

Having the club and stadium under the same owner makes it far easier to not get in this situation again and the level of investment required to give us a promotion tilt is a long way off what’s needed to get us into the top 4 in the country.

Who’s said they’re in favour of Doug King over Ashley?

 

[ovduk78]

Well yes, he claimed there was £27m in transfer fees which he was on the hook for because he didn’t do due diligence (again - great owner!) but I’ve not seen anything to suggest the club was then at risk of bankruptcy unless you can provide otherwise?

Toon were on the brink – Mort

Chris MortNewcastle chairman Chris Mort claims his club were on the brink of "folding like a pack of cards" until the former regime was bought out.Mort reports that the Freddy Shepherd era at St James' Park lurched into a perilous position shortly before Newcastle was taken over by Mike Ashley...

metro.co.uk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Who’s said they’re in favour of Doug King over Ashley?

That’s how it appears in some cases unless I’ve made a series of mistakes.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Might come back if he gets a haircut

Or even

 

[Liquid Gold]

It’s interesting really. A split between those in favour of a hedge fund manager we hadn’t heard of less than 24 hours ago, and those preferring somebody who committed over £250 million to a club and ultimately agreed to sell up as soon as the fans told him he wasn’t wanted.

Having the club and stadium under the same owner makes it far easier to not get in this situation again and the level of investment required to give us a promotion tilt is a long way off what’s needed to get us into the top 4 in the country.

How about people that prefer a new guy we haven't heard of 24 hours ago over sisu and prefer Mike Ashley over him?

 

[SBT]

That’s how it appears in some cases unless I’ve made a series of mistakes.

Well I’ve probably been the most critical of him in this thread, and if you go back and read my first post I still say he’s our best option.

My only point is that an Ashley takeover is not necessarily the amazing outcome that some people (such as yourself) have said it would be.

 

[Grendel]

Who’s said they’re in favour of Doug King over Ashley?

In 2007 Newcastle lost £32 million and had a wage bill contracted for 2008 of £68 million

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well I’ve probably been the most critical of him in this thread, and if you go back and read my first post I still say he’s our best option.

My only point is that an Ashley takeover is not necessarily the amazing outcome that some people (such as yourself) have said it would be.

I'm not sure I've said it would be rainbows and unicorns, just a big improvement on the current or at least very recent ownership situation. He would provide the capital we need to be at least a strong force at this level but really the most crucial is he has the means to successfully manage the stadium. With the two combined under one owner and working well we'd be an attractive package to a much wider range of people.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

How about people that prefer a new guy we haven't heard of 24 hours ago over sisu and prefer Mike Ashley over him?

Also fine

 

[SBT]

I'm not sure I've said it would be rainbows and unicorns, just a big improvement on the current or at least very recent ownership situation. He would provide the capital we need to be at least a strong force at this level but really the most crucial is he has the means to successfully manage the stadium. With the two combined under one owner and working well we'd be an attractive package to a much wider range of people.

In the past you’ve said he’d be the “ideal” owner for us

Derby points deduction

The problem Derby have in finding a buyer is that they are nailed on to be a league 1 club. HMRC are not bound to offer a deal but a football club is a huge part of a community unlike the local Tesco. Some sort of exception needs to be given but Morris must be held accountable at the same time...

www.skybluestalk.co.uk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

In the past you’ve said he’d be the “ideal” owner for us

Derby points deduction

The problem Derby have in finding a buyer is that they are nailed on to be a league 1 club. HMRC are not bound to offer a deal but a football club is a huge part of a community unlike the local Tesco. Some sort of exception needs to be given but Morris must be held accountable at the same time...

www.skybluestalk.co.uk

Relative to SISU I think that's an understatement.

If we were already an established top flight club no, he wouldn't be who I'd want. But for a club that's been in the footballing wilderness for years and up to now had zero chance of getting a stake in the ground, yes he'd be ideal.

 

[SkyblueDad]

It’s getting Joy and sisu out of ccfc asap. that’s my burning priority, Doug King is the other cheek of the same backside.

 

[Sick Boy]

There’s nothing to stop him declaring he wants to buy us now, is there?

 

[Liquid Gold]

There’s nothing to stop him declaring he wants to buy us now, is there?

Apart from the rumours that the council will make his development plans difficult if he hands any decent money to sisu.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

There’s nothing to stop him declaring he wants to buy us now, is there?

There was nothing stopping him doing that before.

 

[shmmeee]

Apart from the rumours that the council will make his development plans difficult if he hands any decent money to sisu.

Now the council want Sisu to stay?

These “rumours” get better and better.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Now the council want Sisu to stay?

These “rumours” get better and better.

At least, once and for all, we can put to be the one about CCC stopping SISU from bidding for the ground, as it turns out SISU stopped SISU from doing that.

 

[shmmeee]

Hahahaha Fucking good to see the mental texters into CWR aren’t just for the after match phone in

Pete you flirty sod

 

[shmmeee]

OMG Pete really? The property Flip theory?

 

[nicksig]

I can’t be happy about Mike Ashley buying our ground. A ground that should be ours and be owned by the club. As it stands I think this is the worst of all options. Where is any investment going to come into the club and team? Ashley will want to make money out of the stadium, but how? And King doesn’t appear to have the financial might to invest serious cash into getting us promoted. I can’t see how we are better off

 

[shmmeee]

Fuck off Trish Adudu

 

[shmmeee]

Oh good Clive Eakin is here to give his considered opinion

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Fuck off Trish Adudu

Why ? Is she anti council?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Fuck off Trish Adudu

She will be soon when the cuts take place, won't she?

 

[shmmeee]

Why ? Is she anti council?

Interrupted Pete when he said Sisu took us to Northampton with “I’m sure Sisu would say they were forced”

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Interrupted Pete when he said Sisu took us to Northampton with “I’m sure Sisu would say they were forced”

I don't want to get into all this again. Not when we have more recent bickering to go into!

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Interrupted Pete when he said Sisu took us to Northampton with “I’m sure Sisu would say they were forced”

I appologise didn’t listen to it

 

[shmmeee]

I don't want to get into all this again. Not when we have more recent bickering to go into!

End of season greatest hits now Sisu have gone (sort of)?

 

[SBT]

Relative to SISU I think that's an understatement.

If we were already an established top flight club no, he wouldn't be who I'd want. But for a club that's been in the footballing wilderness for years and up to now had zero chance of getting a stake in the ground, yes he'd be ideal.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

I can’t be happy about Mike Ashley buying our ground. A ground that should be ours and be owned by the club. As it stands I think this is the worst of all options. Where is any investment going to come into the club and team? Ashley will want to make money out of the stadium, but how? And King doesn’t appear to have the financial might to invest serious cash into getting us promoted. I can’t see how we are better off

Surely Ashley is more likely to make money out of the arena by having a successful football club operating out of it? The more successful the club, the more attention the arena gets. That is why I find it hard to believe that at some point he will not want some control over it to help achieve that end. I guess things will become a bit clearer in the next week or so.

 

[Flying Fokker]

U out.