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Let's not forget that Newcastle's success prior to Ashley was built on building huge piles of unsustainable debt.

£100m hiding behind the sofa along with all the other stuff they knew about?

He knows the money is the PL and the Championship is a money pit. I have no doubt we could be a Saints/Palace type team under him.
 
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It’s interesting really. A split between those in favour of a hedge fund manager we hadn’t heard of less than 24 hours ago, and those preferring somebody who committed over £250 million to a club and ultimately agreed to sell up as soon as the fans told him he wasn’t wanted.

Having the club and stadium under the same owner makes it far easier to not get in this situation again and the level of investment required to give us a promotion tilt is a long way off what’s needed to get us into the top 4 in the country.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s interesting really. A split between those in favour of a hedge fund manager we hadn’t heard of less than 24 hours ago, and those preferring somebody who committed over £250 million to a club and ultimately agreed to sell up as soon as the fans told him he wasn’t wanted.

Having the club and stadium under the same owner makes it far easier to not get in this situation again and the level of investment required to give us a promotion tilt is a long way off what’s needed to get us into the top 4 in the country.
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Who’s said they’re in favour of Doug King over Ashley?
 
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Well yes, he claimed there was £27m in transfer fees which he was on the hook for because he didn’t do due diligence (again - great owner!) but I’ve not seen anything to suggest the club was then at risk of bankruptcy unless you can provide otherwise?
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Toon were on the brink – Mort

Chris MortNewcastle chairman Chris Mort claims his club were on the brink of "folding like a pack of cards" until the former regime was bought out.Mort reports that the Freddy Shepherd era at St James' Park lurched into a perilous position shortly before Newcastle was taken over by Mike Ashley...
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s interesting really. A split between those in favour of a hedge fund manager we hadn’t heard of less than 24 hours ago, and those preferring somebody who committed over £250 million to a club and ultimately agreed to sell up as soon as the fans told him he wasn’t wanted.

Having the club and stadium under the same owner makes it far easier to not get in this situation again and the level of investment required to give us a promotion tilt is a long way off what’s needed to get us into the top 4 in the country.
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How about people that prefer a new guy we haven't heard of 24 hours ago over sisu and prefer Mike Ashley over him?
 
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That’s how it appears in some cases unless I’ve made a series of mistakes.
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Well I’ve probably been the most critical of him in this thread, and if you go back and read my first post I still say he’s our best option.

My only point is that an Ashley takeover is not necessarily the amazing outcome that some people (such as yourself) have said it would be.
 
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Who’s said they’re in favour of Doug King over Ashley?
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In 2007 Newcastle lost £32 million and had a wage bill contracted for 2008 of £68 million
 
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Well I’ve probably been the most critical of him in this thread, and if you go back and read my first post I still say he’s our best option.

My only point is that an Ashley takeover is not necessarily the amazing outcome that some people (such as yourself) have said it would be.
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I'm not sure I've said it would be rainbows and unicorns, just a big improvement on the current or at least very recent ownership situation. He would provide the capital we need to be at least a strong force at this level but really the most crucial is he has the means to successfully manage the stadium. With the two combined under one owner and working well we'd be an attractive package to a much wider range of people.
 
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I'm not sure I've said it would be rainbows and unicorns, just a big improvement on the current or at least very recent ownership situation. He would provide the capital we need to be at least a strong force at this level but really the most crucial is he has the means to successfully manage the stadium. With the two combined under one owner and working well we'd be an attractive package to a much wider range of people.
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In the past you’ve said he’d be the “ideal” owner for us

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Derby points deduction

The problem Derby have in finding a buyer is that they are nailed on to be a league 1 club. HMRC are not bound to offer a deal but a football club is a huge part of a community unlike the local Tesco. Some sort of exception needs to be given but Morris must be held accountable at the same time...
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In the past you’ve said he’d be the “ideal” owner for us

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The problem Derby have in finding a buyer is that they are nailed on to be a league 1 club. HMRC are not bound to offer a deal but a football club is a huge part of a community unlike the local Tesco. Some sort of exception needs to be given but Morris must be held accountable at the same time...
www.skybluestalk.co.uk www.skybluestalk.co.uk
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Relative to SISU I think that's an understatement.

If we were already an established top flight club no, he wouldn't be who I'd want. But for a club that's been in the footballing wilderness for years and up to now had zero chance of getting a stake in the ground, yes he'd be ideal.
 
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I can’t be happy about Mike Ashley buying our ground. A ground that should be ours and be owned by the club. As it stands I think this is the worst of all options. Where is any investment going to come into the club and team? Ashley will want to make money out of the stadium, but how? And King doesn’t appear to have the financial might to invest serious cash into getting us promoted. I can’t see how we are better off
 
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Relative to SISU I think that's an understatement.

If we were already an established top flight club no, he wouldn't be who I'd want. But for a club that's been in the footballing wilderness for years and up to now had zero chance of getting a stake in the ground, yes he'd be ideal.
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I can’t be happy about Mike Ashley buying our ground. A ground that should be ours and be owned by the club. As it stands I think this is the worst of all options. Where is any investment going to come into the club and team? Ashley will want to make money out of the stadium, but how? And King doesn’t appear to have the financial might to invest serious cash into getting us promoted. I can’t see how we are better off
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Surely Ashley is more likely to make money out of the arena by having a successful football club operating out of it? The more successful the club, the more attention the arena gets. That is why I find it hard to believe that at some point he will not want some control over it to help achieve that end. I guess things will become a bit clearer in the next week or so.
 
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